Did I receive the right stuff

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Malmendier, Apr 11, 2019.

  1. casportpony

    casportpony Enlightened

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    Doesn't matter which ivermectin it is, it's just not a good de-wormer. For external bugs, doesn't matter either, oral, topical, or injectable, all will treat the same bugs.
     
  2. staceyj

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    I’ve never used ivermectin internally.

    I’ve used safeguard (labeled for goats) and praziquantel orally.
     
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  3. casportpony

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    I always use the injectable orally for lice.
     
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  4. Hamiam

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    @casportpony, I recently took several chickens to the vet due to feather issues & he said they have a depluming mite. He prescribed Ivermectin pour on 2-3 drops at base of neck, then again in 1 week. If no success, 0.02-0.03 ml injectable ivermectin given SQ.
    It has been 5 days since the first pour on treatment. Today I noticed what I think is cecal worms moving in freshly laid poop. Would the injectable be more effective on the worms? The vet had mentioned that it maybe more effective on the mites.
     
  5. Dax and Chickens

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    What is the withdrawal period for ivermectin oral for chickens ?
     
  6. jlwquilter

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    Summarising what I’ve learned from BYC - please correct me if I’m wrong!

    Ivermectin (injectable): 1cc per pound weight droppered onto SKIN on back of neck. MUST be on skin not feathers. Repeat in 10 days. Good for external parasites like mites and lice. May work on some worms but don’t use it for that if you have alternative medicine. Withhold period seems flexible- some withold for 2 weeks, some not at all. Ivermectin is used on humans for worms.

    Valbazen: give orally using dropper. 2lb chicken gets 1cc, 4lb chicken gets 2.5cc, 7 lb chicken gets 5cc. Repeat in 10 days. Good for just about any and all worms including tape worms and gape worms. Sorry I didn’t write the withdrawals period down.

    Safeguard for goats (paste) - pea sized ball given orally. Repeat in 10 days. That’s all I have on that as I decided to go with the ivermectin for external parasites and valbazen for internal parasites.

    I need to reread up on what can/should be used as a preventative. I live in a hot humid rainy summer area and feel my flock is particularly vulnerable to parasites.
     
  7. Wyorp Rock

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    See this link for the correct dose of Ivermectin. 1cc per pound is too much!
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/mites-lice-now-hen-growling.1242981/page-2#post-19965544

    Valbazen dosage is 0.08ml per pound of weight. So a 5 lb chicken would get 0.40ml once then repeat in 10 days. Some people round that up to 0.50ml.
    IF treating Gapeworm give orally for 3 days in a row, then repeat once in 10 days.
    Valbazen will also treat some tapeworms, but for Tapes, it would be better to use Praziquantel - dosing and products are in the link below.
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...rms-under-construction.1220309/#post-19519143

    Safeguard (Fenbendazole) dosage is 0.23ml per pound of weight given orally. Give for 5 days in a row to treat most worms including Capillary worms and Gapeworm.
     
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  8. jlwquilter

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    Thanks! I literally took those dosages off threads on here - I had taken screenshots so I’d have the dosages handy. This goes to the problem of conflicting info - and I added to that
     
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  9. Wyorp Rock

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    Yes, I understand you may have gotten those dosages off BYC, some threads are old and now there is more information about dosing. No matter where you look, there's going to be conflicting information. Most medications have ranges, so that is also something to consider.
    One of the better ways to make sure you are giving the right medication for whatever illness/condition at the proper dosage is to seek vet care, have the vet prescribe and give you the medication with instructions. Even between vets dosing and suggestions for medication may be a bit different.
     
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