When we butcher grouse (after they are dead) we stand on the wings, grab the legs and pull. The breast and wings detach beautifully and cleanly. A small touch up and they are excellent. No gutting, no plucking. Today we thought, why not try it with the banties? We were disposing of 2/3 of my flock because they were old and had stopped laying. Originally we were going to use the meat as dog food, but that had changed. We were sadly going to just dispose of the bodies. So we thought, why not? The first one was a bit tough, but we managed, second came out beautifully. The rest were easy as cake. We did 12 banties and 3 (smaller) standards this way. They all turned out great. I have two big bags of breasts in my freezer and I will cook them in my crock pot. Yes, it would be a waste if you wanted the whole bird, but banties really don't have much meat besides the breast anyways. Has anyone else used this method?