Dieing chicks, possible coccidiosis?

[quail 247]

So, here is my problem, ( well, technically my neighbors problem). He ordered 15 white face black spanish chicks from cackle hatchery, they arrived april 28th, He has been giving them medicated chick starter since he got them, everyone has been fine, growing well, looking healthy and active, he moved them outside about 2 weeks ago with a heatlamp, everyone was fine.


Yesterday we had a long day of rain, he went out to the brooder this morning to find bloody droppings on the ground, and 2 dead chicks. And now 4 others are huddled together, not looking well. All the symptoms point to coccidiosis, but isn't the medicated feed supposed to prevent that? Saying the chicks do have it, what should he do to treat them?

He had the chicks vaccinated for mareks at the hatchery. Any insight would be appreciated!

 

[homema]

So, here is my problem, ( well, technically my neighbors problem). He ordered 15 white face black spanish chicks from cackle hatchery, they arrived april 28th, He has been giving them medicated chick starter since he got them, everyone has been fine, growing well, looking healthy and active, he moved them outside about 2 weeks ago with a heatlamp, everyone was fine.


Yesterday we had a long day of rain, he went out to the brooder this morning to find bloody droppings on the ground, and 2 dead chicks. And now 4 others are huddled together, not looking well. All the symptoms point to coccidiosis, but isn't the medicated feed supposed to prevent that? Saying the chicks do have it, what should he do to treat them?

He had the chicks vaccinated for mareks at the hatchery. Any insight would be appreciated!

If you want to go an old school natural way, I've always given home made butter milk to kick out coccidiosis/blood poops. Every 2cups of whole milk add 2tablespoons apple cider vinegar and stop the medicated feed. I've had plenty of problems with it and don't use it any more. The bloody stools can also be caused by too much protein, they only need 12.5% to grow healthy any thing over that just helps them to grow faster, 16-18% is plenty! Water should be day daily and washing of water/feeders is a must but never never use any type of bleach! It's very poisonous and it's hard to rinse away. Hand soap or no soap with hot water works great and I always give cool water, not hot, warm or super cold, room temp. And don't be afraid to limit feed them too till the bloody pooh is gone. Daily bedding changes help too, some aren't that smart and will eat each others droppings. One more is to add poultry vitamins to their water, it's an extra boost that some need so as to not eat so much. Good luck I hope it works out, keep me updated.

 

[Fred's Hens]

Rainy weather and the ground. The cysts of coccidiosis are rampant. Feeding medicated feed doesn't stop all coccidiosis. Not by a far shot. Corid in the water is the ticket. Yogurt or raw milk are indeed helpful for soothing the intestines of the birds. Corid is available at TSC and other such places. 20% Corid, 1/2 teaspoon per gallon of water. Hurry. Coccidiosis can kill many birds and very, very quickly.

 

[seminolewind]

I would treat the rest. If my chicks or juvies look sick, my first step is to put them all on Corid etc. That's the foremost most common ailment. Do it ASAP

 

[Fred's Hens]

If you want to go an old school natural way, I've always given home made butter milk to kick out coccidiosis/blood poops. Every 2cups of whole milk add 2tablespoons apple cider vinegar and stop the medicated feed. I've had plenty of problems with it and don't use it any more. The bloody stools can also be caused by too much protein, they only need 12.5% to grow healthy any thing over that just helps them to grow faster, 16-18% is plenty! Water should be day daily and washing of water/feeders is a must but never never use any type of bleach! It's very poisonous and it's hard to rinse away. Hand soap or no soap with hot water works great and I always give cool water, not hot, warm or super cold, room temp. And don't be afraid to limit feed them too till the bloody pooh is gone. Daily bedding changes help too, some aren't that smart and will eat each others droppings. One more is to add poultry vitamins to their water, it's an extra boost that some need so as to not eat so much. Good luck I hope it works out, keep me updated.

Vitamins, during coccidiosis is not indicated. Starving coccidiosis of thiamine is what assists the birds in recovery. Feeding vitamins, which contain thiamine, can actually assist the cocci in killing the birds. Every one owns their flocks and the decisions made in management. Giving vitamins to coccidiosis infected birds would NEVER be my recommendation. Corid would be my first move. And.... I'd hurry. FWIW

 

[seminolewind]

Rainy weather and the ground. The cysts of coccidiosis are rampant. Feeding medicated feed doesn't stop all coccidiosis. Not by a far shot. Corid in the water is the ticket. Yogurt or raw milk are indeed helpful for soothing the intestines of the birds. Corid is available at TSC and other such places. 20% Corid, 1/2 teaspoon per gallon of water. Hurry. Coccidiosis can kill many birds and very, very quickly.

I got this dosage paper from twincitiespoultry, and it says a teaspoon per gallon, then maintenance would be 1/2 a tsp. Fred's Hens, can yogurt or raw milk hold them for a bit of time?

 

[homema]

Vitamins, during coccidiosis is not indicated.  Starving coccidiosis of thiamine is what assists the birds in recovery.  Feeding vitamins, which contain thiamine, can actually assist the cocci in killing the birds.    Every one owns their flocks and the decisions made in management.  Giving vitamins to coccidiosis infected birds would NEVER be my recommendation.  Corid would be my first move.  And.... I'd hurry.  FWIW

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/411236/ here's a link proving that THIAMINE and derivatives of are sure treatment to coccidious and similars. That's why it's most poultry feeds, supplements etc. Hope this helps.

 

[Fred's Hens]

I got this dosage paper from twincitiespoultry, and it says a teaspoon per gallon, then maintenance would be 1/2 a tsp. Fred's Hens, can yogurt or raw milk hold them for a bit of time?

The dosage depends on the method of Corid used. Liquid Corid is different than powdered Corid and powdered Corid comes on 20% and 14%??, I believe. Our TSC stocks 20% powder. Certainly 1 teaspoon per gallon dosing of 20% isn't going to hurt the birds. Provide Corid water for 5-7 days to the flock.

As for whether homeopathic remedies will stave off the parasite "for a bit of time" is unknown. The coccidiosis has 8 or 9 strains, many of which are virulent and morph, like all such organisms. We had a strain this wet, damp spring that was deadly. We lost some irreplaceable juveniles in the wink of an eye. These strains can move with lightening speed to kill. Again, everyone makes their own flock decisions. For me? I'll never be without Corid or similar again. Medicated feed simply doesn't contain enough amprolium to be preventative. Some folks say it is intended to "buy you some time". Shrug. It didn't buy us any time at all. Corid water knocked it out, along with yogurt, in less than 8 hours.