Differences EE, Ameraucana, & Araucana * Pls post pics*

[Chris09]

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I'm talking about real chicken breeds defined by the APA standard. Not about general terms, or generally accepted definitions, or wild animal species/sub-species

So are you saying the breed American Gamefowl is not a "Real Chicken Breed" just because it isn't in the APA?
How about the Russian a Breed of chicken that once was in the APA but then removed?
There are a lot of breeds that are not in the APA for what ever reason it might be.

Thanks to hatcheries most EE's are just cross bred chickens NOW don't get me wrong I have some hatchery EE's and I do like them but lets call them what they are a cross bred fowl.
I have been to more than on Hatchery and seen what they call a "Easter Egger Breeding Pen" and I saw at least 5 other breeds other than a "EE". Chris​

Most hatcheries don't actually label their Easter Eggers as such and it seems odd that a hatchery would purposely keep 5 other breeds of chickens to their Easter Eggers, since that would reduce the chances of offspring producing colored eggs and having muffs/beards, etc. Were these real hatcheries (like McMurray or Meyer?) or just some private or local breeders? If so, which hatcheries were they? What other breeds were in there with the Easter Eggers?

it seems odd that a hatchery would purposely keep 5 other breeds of chickens to their Easter Eggers, since that would reduce the chances of offspring producing colored eggs and having muffs/beards, etc

No they can still lay "colored" / (tinted) eggs if bred correctly.

Blue X Blue = Blue
Blue X White (eg, Leghorn) = Blue
Blue X Brown (eg, RIR) = Green
Blue X Dark Brown (eg, Maran) = Olive Brown

Now as for beard/muff if the roosters that is being used has a nice large beard/muff and the hens being used have small to no beard/muff there should/ will have small to medium beard/muff.
I have seen this in my own breeding's crossing a Light Brahma Rooster w/ lightly feather feet over a EE with good beard/muff there offspring had OK beard/muff, little to no feathers on there shanks and hens lay a very dark Green egg.

Were these real hatcheries (like McMurray or Meyer?) or just some private or local breeders?

Yes they were "real" hatcheries. One of them was one of Myers farms (suppliers) and the other two I cant remember who they supplied for. We were there picking up there cull breeder stock to ship to a few Livestock Actions.

What other breeds were in there with the Easter Eggers?

I seen Leghorns (various varieties), Faverolles (with little to no feathering on the shanks), Production Reds, Plymouth Rock (various varieties) and other breeds here and there.

Chris​

 

[Chris09]

Here is a picture of that Light Brahma/ EE cross in a breeding pen with Brahmas. (she is the blue gray neck feathers)

Brahma/ EE cross Hen -

One of her eggs -

I have some of her eggs in the incubator and she is going to get moved into a breeding pen with a Orloff Rooster which should in her offspring improve beard, remove what little shank feathering she has and should change the egg color (possibly to a lighter shade of green).

Chris

 

[draye]

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Very pretty hen Chris.

 

[Chris09]

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Very pretty hen Chris.

Thank You,
Her color is starting to bleach out some as she gets older but I hope to get more of the same coloring out of her.
After about a month and a half of off and on rain (more on than off) the breeding pens are a mess.

Chris

 

[fuzziecreatures]

EE or Amerecana
? His name is Charlie"Sheen"

Charlie and Moose
Moose has a bread and muffs. Charlie is still growing his out.

Edit: fixed pics

 

[fuzziecreatures]

Any ideas on my boys? I can't tell. I'm not familiar enough with either breed

 

[kathyinmo]

Easter Egger or Ameraucana?

All pictures are of the same bird.

 

[SteveH]

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The black cockeral at first appears to conform to the basic description for black Ameraucanas, but then I think I see silver or gold leakage on the back of the neck. The blue has red leakage on its shoulders, almost appears to be blue laced red there. Size is hard to gage in pictures, but Moose may also be over the size limit for Ameraucanas. I personally wouldn't use them as Ameraucanas. They're fine as EEs, beautiful birds in fact, and there's no SOP for EEs as they are not a breed, so any size, conformation, color, or combination of colors is fine.

 

[pips&peeps]

Kathy,

She appears to fit the SOP, however, her comb looks a bit off. It would depend on if she lays the correct color egg and if she breeds true.

 

[kathyinmo]

pips&peeps :

Kathy,

She appears to fit the SOP, however, her comb looks a bit off. It would depend on if she lays the correct color egg and if she breeds true.

I think she lays a blue egg, but am not 100% certain. She was hatched from a pen that had a Lavender Ameraucana rooster and a black Ameraucana rooster. The only hens were 2 black Ameraucana hens. I have no idea how I could have gotten a blue from that, but I did. There is no question on the blacks, they are not dark blues. They came from Paul Smith. Weird, huh? Blue from the Lavender?​