different chicken owners--(RANT)

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by simba49450, Jul 14, 2008.

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  1. simba49450

    simba49450 Songster

    May 23, 2008
    i have something that bothers me sooooo bad, there are several things one is people who have chickens that are mixed breed calling them mutts!!! i hate that, its a chicken people. also people who cull because its not pure blood or the colors wrong or whatever. whats wrong with letting it live its not the chicks fault that it was born that way, and who are we to judge wether they live or die because of the breeding, if this is a major problem separate your hens and roo. i have had pure bloods and mixed both and they were fine and actually the mutts as you call them were better than the pure bloods. if you have a chick that has a medical problem then thats fine, but if you can fix it, FIX IT, don't kill just because. if you have a abundance of roos try to sell or give away or whatever but don't kill them. people need to take responsibilites for what they do and stop taking out on the chicks--in order to get the perfect bird. some breeds have health issues etc because people want something in particular dont figure in the consquenses of thier actions. alot of inbreeding and such make these breeds voulrable to particular health issues. people need to start re thinking on what they are doing before new lives are brought into this world and ultimatly dying because "we" couldn't get it right.
  2. DuckLady

    DuckLady Administrator

    Jan 11, 2007
    NE Washington State
    There are breeders trying to being back old breeds that are almost lost. To do that they need to make sure their breedign stock is of the best. No fault there.

    There are also those who breed for show. When you are heavily invested finacially, you only can afford to have the best in the flock.

    You might like to know that "cull" does not necessarily mean "kill". It means "remove from the flock" and if birds not up to par were given to the kid down the road as pets, then they were "culled" from the breeders flock.
  3. simba49450

    simba49450 Songster

    May 23, 2008

    i do understand what you are saying it just upsets me, and thats the best way i could describe it sorry if i have offended you. thanks for your reply
  4. joebryant

    joebryant Crowing

    Quote:What really gets me while reading some posts are the people writing them who have the audacity to tell in a practically demanding tone what and how everyone is suppose to be/do. It's one thing to state how you personally believe/feel about something, but to try to shame others who don't "meet your standards" and practically demand their changing their ways to yours is something different.
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  5. MissPrissy

    MissPrissy Crowing

    May 7, 2007
    Forks, Virginia
    I do not raise pets. I raise livestock. My animals are well fed and well treated. When and how I choose to cull is my decision. Most culls end up in my freezer. My birds serve a greater purpose than to be an ornament here. I have a small farm not a petting zoo.

    As far as 'inbreeding' you need to do a lot of reading and studying of poultry as a whole.
  6. tiffanyh

    tiffanyh Songster

    Apr 8, 2007
    I second Joe.

    Part of being with others in social settings is realizing that your opinion is just that, an opinion. It is not a fact for all to live by. If you want respect from others and want people to listen to your opinions than you must treat others with respect. If you dont, they will never listen or respect your ideas. For example, your original post. Rewording that so that you are not attacking people who dont carry the same beliefs as you might make people respect your opinion.

    Secondly, culling, as in killing, is not the worst thing. I have never ever seen someone on here cull for color. Maybe they have, but I havent seen it and I have been poking around for some time here. But what they decide to do with their own birds is their call- not yours.

    I relate it to working at a vets where you run into dog rescues. I have seen a women who rescued aussies. She had 19 dogs in her home. Half couldnt walk and had [email protected] all over themselves, urine burns, her house smelled like urine so strongly you would choke walking iin the door, all because she didnt want to humanely euthanize ones with broken backs and long term injuries, although she could not provide the care for them. She became a dog horder (sic?) . Do you think those dogs with broken backs, urine burns on them that were infected were living an enjoyable life? I dont. My point--since I digress, is that culling animals might be better than keeping hundreds of birds that dont get proper care.

    It is not always easy to just "fix" it. Not all chickens are pets. My opinion; your out look, while noble in thoought, is a bit naive and realistic and may change a bit as time goes on.

    Thank you for sharing your opinion, although I would have enjoyed it more if it wasnt an attack.
  7. bluey

    bluey thootp veteran

    Apr 10, 2008
    Washington, PA
    People raise chickens for a whole host of reasons. Some, for their dinner table, some to breed, some as pets and some to dress up in diapers and dine at the owner's dinner table. [​IMG]

    Whether for food or friend, no one has any right to pass judgement on that choice.

    Anyway you slice it, I would say in 95+% of BYC owners' care, these birds are treated world's better than in the industrial chicken industry world.

    I guess, to put it as nicely as I can, ...get off the soapbox. No one is forcing you to cull your chickens, so don't force your "opinions" on the rest of us and sit in judgement on your ivory tower.
  8. firem3

    firem3 Songster

    Sep 15, 2007
    Odenville Alabama
    Simba i think you just kicked a hornet nest and you are gonna get stung.[​IMG]
  9. onthespot

    onthespot Deluxe Dozens

    Mar 29, 2008
    Riverside/Norco, CA
    I have two varieties I will be breeding for this fall, copper black marans, and mille fleur cochins. Will I be culling for color? You bet! One for egg color, the other for feather color. Will I treat my birds humanely in the meantime, of course! Do I plan to butcher and freeze all the off colored cochins that will come along? No, not much meat there, the hens are little bitty cute things that will be very happily absorbed into the community as yard ornaments and broodies. The extra roos, well, they will be extra roos no matter what. Extra roos mostly end up dead, no matter what a person does. I have an "outlet" for extra roos. Any day of the week I can pick up the phone and they will be gone within a day or two. There is a very nice Vietnamese man with a young family that humanely butchers them and feeds them to his family. He is my friend and I am proud to be able to help them in tough times. If the realities of chicken raising distresses you, I would suggest you find a different hobby, like raising vegetables.
  10. Wildsky

    Wildsky Wild Egg!

    Oct 13, 2007
    Perhaps Simba will offer to make a home for all those unwanted chickens ?

    Kinda STEP UP TO THE PLATE time?

    Where are you located Simba?
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