Discolored beaks and sneezing

[showbarnmom]

Just went out and visually examined everyone again to see how it's going. I did not hear as much sneezing. Still there though. I did pick up the two pullets who have been sneezing the most.

They stunk. I've never held a chicken and went wow...you stink. Checked and no dirty butts. Both had crust over each nostril and when scraped off odor became much more apparent. Especially in the BO pullet. When I smooshed on the nostril, 2 of the 3 had some puralent discharge, 3 only had clear. Which shows me there is some infection. No adult bird had crust covering their nostrils.

I'm a little concerned over the 3 pullets, though they are not sneezing as much. But the discharge from their nose concerns me. But everyone is still eating and otherwise seems fine.

Thoughts?

 

[Beekissed]

Just went out and visually examined everyone again to see how it's going. I did not hear as much sneezing. Still there though. I did pick up the two pullets who have been sneezing the most.

They stunk. I've never held a chicken and went wow...you stink. Checked and no dirty butts. Both had crust over each nostril and when scraped off odor became much more apparent. Especially in the BO pullet. When I smooshed on the nostril, 2 of the 3 had some puralent discharge, 3 only had clear. Which shows me there is some infection. No adult bird had crust covering their nostrils.

I'm a little concerned over the 3 pullets, though they are not sneezing as much. But the discharge from their nose concerns me. But everyone is still eating and otherwise seems fine.

Thoughts?

Did a little search and found that the symptoms most match something called coryza...they said it's the only chicken ailment that has a bad smell coming from the sinuses. It may be zoonotic, so good hand washing is advisable.


http://cmr.asm.org/content/12/4/627.ful

Here's some info from one site...


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[showbarnmom]

Hmm, thank you for that, Bee. Thats really interesting. I think I have erthymcin in the kitchen. Can't remember if its that or tetramycin. It does say its easily killed by heat, and we've been having 100*+ days. So that leads me to wonder? Also, no other symptoms besides the discharge and sneezing. Everyone is in other wise good health. I may do another 10 day round of antibiotics just in case. Gotta buy another water-er. *sigh*

It is Texas. I think they have allergies.

 

[Eggcessive]

The bad smell does sound like it is coryza. Have you noticed any swollen eyes or bubbles in the eyes? Sulmet, sulfadimethoxine, gallimycin are other antibiotics besides erythromycin and tetracyclne that will treat it.

 

[showbarnmom]

No swelling noted. Decreased egg production, but that could be chalked up to heat too

 

[Beekissed]

Anytime there is a smell in relation to snot, it usually indicates an infectious process going on..at least in humans.

Sorry I can't be more help..I've never seen anything like that in chickens, so I'm limited when it comes to diagnosing illnesses from pathogens specific to poultry.

 

[showbarnmom]

It's the same in animals. Clear discharge isuzually ok. Purulent is not, especially green. Smell is never good. However, bad snot usually comes with lethargy or atleast decreased appetite.

I guess I will have to text the vet. See what he says.

 

[Beekissed]

It's the same in animals. Clear discharge isuzually ok. Purulent is not, especially green. Smell is never good. However, bad snot usually comes with lethargy or atleast decreased appetite.

I guess I will have to text the vet. See what he says.

Maybe the probiotics in the FF are giving your birds a better resistance to whatever this is and keeping them healthier as they fight off this thing?

 

[showbarnmom]

I would like to think so. But it's so strange in the fact it isn't super viral. Of 15 birds, only 6~ are sneezing, 4 have discoloration and only 3 have discharge.

 

[Beekissed]

I'm thinking the main source of flock transmission of this kind of pathogen would be through shared water source as they each have to put their beaks into the water to drink, so maybe the FF decreases the overall water consumption and also increases the rest of the flock's resistance to the transmission of the virus? The benefits to the body's immune system from fermented foods is well documented in humans, so why wouldn't that also apply to the birds?


It's funny but one of the sites I found about coryza was about the illness in humans and they listed some natural treatments for the virus and garlic was on the list!


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