Dixie Chicks

Raw milk tastes good depending on the cow in my experience. The fat separating from the rest takes some getting used too...
My friends cow blossom (a Jersey) makes awesome milk. Her moms cow Ruby, same breed on the same feed and pasture... YUCK! No idea what the difference was, but Ruby's milk was gamey. Fresh raw goats milk was good too, tasted like hazle nuts... Goat milk shouldn't bug the lactose intolerant, no lactose as I understand and smaller proteins molecules make it more digestible...
I'm not sure if I'd enjoy a 3:00am milking lol.
Felix I wouldn't want raw milk from a store either...
 
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Raw milk tastes good depending on the cow in my experience. The fat separating from the rest takes some getting used too...
My friends cow blossom (a Jersey) makes awesome milk. Her moms cow Ruby, same breed on the same feed and pasture... YUCK! No idea what the difference was, but Ruby's milk was gamey. Fresh raw goats milk was good too, tasted like hazle nuts... Goat milk shouldn't bug the lactose intolerant, no lactose as I understand and smaller proteins molecules make it more digestible...
I'm not sure if I'd enjoy a 3:00am milking lol.
Felix I wouldn't want raw milk from a store either...

Yep.
Jerseys the best!
I always shake mine good before pouring.

Unless I want to make BUTTER.
 
Raz, can you find unhomogenized milk? To my understanding, that's the process that mainly messes with the proteins, and some people don't get symptoms drinking it.

Marek would kinda be a bummer, but I wouldn't be surprised if we had it. Breeding for resistance should work though.
Sadly, I can't. And Alabama's laws being what they are, I can't get raw milk either. Can't talk anyone into letting me get a Nigerian Dwarf Doe or mini cow either. I'm just stuck at this point. I don't know anyone with goats or milk cows.

Quote: Yup, that's why I've been looking into it. I just can't seem to get any because of Alabama's stupid laws.

Thanks again!
 
Sadly, I can't. And Alabama's laws being what they are, I can't get raw milk either. Can't talk anyone into letting me get a Nigerian Dwarf Doe or mini cow either. I'm just stuck at this point. I don't know anyone with goats or milk cows.

Yup, that's why I've been looking into it. I just can't seem to get any because of Alabama's stupid laws.

Thanks again!
can you bring your own container and tell them it's for animal consumption?

or for making candles?
 
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There isn't anyone near me that sells milk. 

I've checked it before, but now Chrome and Edge are telling me the site isn't available. 

Sellers aren't required to dye the milk before sale, so that's a plus, but actually finding someone to sell it is something else. 

Well dern
If ya ever come down this way,let me know

I'll send ya home with a whole mess :weee
 
I think the faces of cornish look like meat eating dinosaurs.

Agreed...
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Feb 3 2014 - I think the lack of a comb (cushion combs look cut or dubbed) is the way the Chanteclers end up looking like SNAKES...evilness


This is Medusa--another Red Chantecler...she won best cushion comb on BYC...she looks pretty rank...but she's all gooby
She's one of the first hens after Chantelle to line up for treaties...

I love the mean chook look...the ones with small combs look the rankest...pea, rose, cushion...breda, etc. The lack of a comb kinda snakeizes them...and most persons don't warm up and like reptiles.
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The breed is recognized in some stunning varieties...I truly love Cornish...they are in the composite breed Chantecler and every so often, I get one that leans towards Cornish...meaty lovelies!



I adore the tree trunk legs and the seriousness...that's some chicken!
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The bare spot down the chest, that's a side affect from pea comb and wanting hard feathering (softer feathers cover up the void along the keel bone)...I have Chants that express this trait (cushion comb is pea x rose comb). Kinda freaks one out until you learn it is the genetics and expected in breeds with pea combs.


Cushion comb...a comb so cushiony other chooks wanna sit on it
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I found that the Chants took a while to get use to...the stern stare but all I had to do was toss romaine and you got the gooby goofus look with greens hanting outta their gobs.
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I can tell you if'n I raised these...I'd be making quite sure I never did the "help I have fallen" in the pen...
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Dinosaurs...those are the turkeys...DINO-turks...raptors indeedy...now they are all scampering to back up and say lots of dinos had feathers...I can imagine a turkey, feathered foe and all hunting small mammals...making sure we mammals never DID get to take over the planet eh!


Jest keep these ones away, eh...
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having control over our food is what most of us are here for.

Veal is just wrong. I have known about it for 45 years... I used to ride my horse past a dairy on the way out to the trail... all those sheds with a calf each... a by product of the dairy industry. They dont even get to be with momma past that first colostrom nurse.

for years tsk tsk tsked over it all... Then I realized... I drink milk and eat cheese.
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so I am a hypocrite.

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I know posting info about frankenbirds in factory farms is like singing to the choir but I figure the choir is all of us and if each one of us knows the words and how they are supported thru science...we can know why we do what we do and if questioned and put on the spot, we all have a toolkit we can pull resources from.

We are not raising our own food because its cheaper...we simply can never EVER compete on a factory farmed basis...we raise what we raise because it is RIGHT to do this...costs more financially and costs us time and resources but ah....the product we consume is ever so much more superior...a premium product for the labour of love we all do every day. At least I figure that is why we do what we do.


I eat tons of dairy...never did believe in calcium supplements...give me dairy REAL dairy and that be keeping our skeletons proper. I never give it much thought on how our dairy IS produced...I mean I even had milking goats (Nigerians) but never kept them freshened. Too much on my plate already to do everything the proper way. So we do what we are able and we live with what we might or should be doing and say, be kind to ourselves in that we try with the choices we make. Can't do everything...only human, eh. Give yourself a hug Deb...there is a point in our lives, our energy levels, our abilities where we do have to be kind and say, I know I could do better but only so much before it gets way too ridiculous. Educated, you and I are making a choice...maybe not the best but a choice in that we know we could do better and maybe one day, we shall.
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I know lots of places you show up, put yer money in a jar and you leave with your farm milk (with the cream on top!)...I would guard these places with a vengeance. I suspect one day, that way of life will be finally snuffed out. Cause, yeh, you are suppose to go blind eating raw milk, eh. Pssshaw...dairies that are raw milk producers are WAY clean...the pasturized ones...those ones make me go UGH! Over in Ontario, at one time you could not even give away yer eggs...now here in AB, you can sell eggs farm gate...so long as they are marked "ungraded." I looked into providing eggs to a deli here down the road...Icrumba...dairy grade concrete floors, separate buildings for cooling eggs, sorting, washing...forget that...and now it has swung back I can sell them from home...egads, eh. Can't keep up with all the regs and do's and don'ts...argh!


Mother Dixie and daughter Heidi - Aug 5, 2013


I think the best way to combat the want milk at home is to get a Nigerian or two (gotta have real good fences...even maybe ele cause them fifty pounds are good escape artists)... even a Jersey would likely supply more dairy than one fam could consume, even if you kept pigs and fed them that in their swill (lots of dairies had a side line on hogs...pigs do well with some dairy in their diets).


I don't eat veal outta principle. If it was proper grass fed kinds where they get to romp around and smell the daisies, I might be a convert...but I am told that the moment they stop drinking milk, the meat gets darker. I know a friend that Rick grew up with, lives in the city with his wife that pretends she is an animal advocate and yet, orders veal at restaurants...not much of a statement made in the "love animals" aspect. Told me she likes the taste...I quit eating Abalone (use to pick it off the rocks at low tide...now divers can't harvest it...takes like 25 years for abalone to replicate). I quite eating it because I felt, if there was no market, maybe it would not go extinct. I mean I loved it so much pan fried in butter I would have that as my last meal ever if it was not so sinful.

Doggone & Chicken UP!

Tara Lee Higgins
Higgins Rat Ranch Conservation Farm, Alberta, Canada
 
Only reason I'd try shark fin soup is to see what the 'hype' is about, doubt it tastes good and I think it is illegal in the US now.

Yeah Tara most farms milk is super clean, even the milk sent to pastuerizers. They have to be, pick up driver takes a sample from each farm every pickup to be sent to a lab where it is tested for butterfat, protein, and bacteria. Driver keeps all samples on ice, drops them off at their garage or our plant fridge. Lab guy doesn't pick up samples until the middle of the night, probably doesn't get run until the next day. The farmer gets paid for the weight, fat and protein, but a hit on bacteria drops their grade and they loose that grade/pay for awhile, not just that shipment.
We check before unloading. SNAP kit for antibiotics, rarely but it happens, rejected for that. Probably farmer milks a treated cow too early, ruin a whole load. Used to send that milk to veal farm...good to know ain't it...
We do a DMC check for bacteria under a microscope, it can have quite a few 'bugs' and still be accepted, but there is a limit. I almost never ever see a single 'bug'.
Yrs ago before the milk receivers had to run the samples lab tech came out and said the load was super high in bacteria, rejected. Driver said it didn't surprise him some of his farms are 4H projects gone bad..lol.
I think the majority of the milk out there is safe to drink raw. In ten yrs I can only think of think of twice a load being rejected for bacteria.
 

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