Do Chickens come with papers?

[CityChicker]

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I totally agree, but that seems to be a point missed by many (or one they don't agree with). I personally think that a bird is only a person's "line" if that person bred the bird themselves. I don't care if all the birds came from only one breeder. If that breeder did not pair up each individual pair, they are no longer the original breeder's line. A lot of people seem to think that all there is to breeding top quality birds is putting two birds from an existing high quality line together and letting them breed (often though, people even will pair birds from multiple lines and refer to them as the original breeder's line). I am sorry to inform everyone that this is not the case.

Of course, it certainly is a good idea and helps immensely to buy top quality birds. There is no doubt in that whatsoever. A good breeder though will pair up birds that improve upon each other's weaknesses. They don't just randomly pair up birds. Once *you* make the decision on which birds to pair with which, you are now breeding YOUR line, not someone else's. To me, it seems like such a simple concept.

 

[NYREDS]

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I totally agree, but that seems to be a point missed by many (or one they don't agree with). I personally think that a bird is only a person's "line" if that person bred the bird themselves. I don't care if all the birds came from only one breeder. If that breeder did not pair up each individual pair, they are no longer the original breeder's line. A lot of people seem to think that all there is to breeding top quality birds is putting two birds from an existing high quality line together and letting them breed (often though, people even will pair birds from multiple lines and refer to them as the original breeder's line). I am sorry to inform everyone that this is not the case.

Of course, it certainly is a good idea and helps immensely to buy top quality birds. There is no doubt in that whatsoever. A good breeder though will pair up birds that improve upon each other's weaknesses. They don't just randomly pair up birds. Once *you* make the decision on which birds to pair with which, you are now breeding YOUR line, not someone else's. To me, it seems like such a simple concept.

That's how most people see it. Once the "famous breeder" stops making the mating decisions the resultant product really isn't his/hers.

 

[CityChicker]

LOL, yes without a doubt that is how *I* see it. I can certainly believe that most people you know NYReds see it that way as well. Most people on BYC, however, do NOT seem to see it that way. Not by any stretch of the imagination. It is something people on this site have argued with me about before. When the topic has come up before, I have felt like I was the only one here that saw it that way. I specifically remember one thread on the duck board where I was literally the only person on the thread that saw it that way. I agree that "most" in the show world and in the realm of serious breeders do indeed agree with us. I think we are a small minority here on BYC though.