Do I Look Like Mommy or Daddy?

[Mimi13]

This thread is about questions I have regarding dominant traits of chickens.

I have some eggs under a broody and some in the incubator. All of them are from a Welsummer cockerel, but there are several different pullets that contributed to my little bit of middle-aged biology chicken fun.

Is there a written list anywhere or somewhere I could find this information? Nothing too in-depth, seeing as I’m not a scientist nor a big time breeder. I just want something simple showing info like this?

Which is the dominant trait?

• Single comb vs rose, pea, etc.
• Feathered legs vs clean legs
• Crests vs no crests
• Beards vs no beards
• Muffs vs no muffs
• Naked neck vs feathered neck
• Brown eggs vs I don’t know. (Just thought I’d throw that one in there.)
• Or any other trait I may be missing that would contribute to me being able to visualize what my little chicks might look like and to then be able to identify them.

Just for your curiosity’s sake, all the possible pullets are breeder and hatchery purebreds except one and include:

BO
CCL
SS
RIR
SLW
GLW
CW
BPR
WPR
NN
Dom
Buckeye
Barnevelder
Blk Ameraucana
Australorp
Partridge Cochin

EE

Of course some of my eggs are identifiable just by the egg itself and hopefully I’ll know which chick came from said eggs (except for the four under the broody and possibly those that hatch overnight) , but my curiosity right now is at its highest.

If you have any knowledge of this I would loooove to hear from you. My curiosity has peaked and I’m just days away!

Thank you, thank you!

 

[Antcohan]

You could put dividers in the incubator to keep them separated.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...hing-different-breeds-in-an-incubator.457341/

 

[lilmillefleur]

I don't know if there's a list but here is what I think based on observation and random knowledge:
More dominant:
Rose comb
feathered legs
crests (small, as seen in silkie crosses)
beard/muffs
Naked neck is incompletely dominant N/N is naked neck, and n/n is feathered neck. N/n is Bowtie, which has an extra puff of feathers at the base of the neck.
Here's a chicken calculator for color:
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
Hope this helps!

 

[Mimi13]

You could put dividers in the incubator to keep them separated.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...hing-different-breeds-in-an-incubator.457341/

That is an excellent idea and I can’t believe that did t enter my mind. Thank you.

 

[Mimi13]

I don't know if there's a list but here is what I think based on observation and random knowledge:
More dominant:
Rose comb
feathered legs
crests (small, as seen in silkie crosses)
beard/muffs
Naked neck is incompletely dominant N/N is naked neck, and n/n is feathered neck. N/n is Bowtie, which has an extra puff of feathers at the base of the neck.
Here's a chicken calculator for color:
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
Hope this helps!

Excellent! This is what I’m looking for.

Now, for one baby step forward, where do I find all the “symbols” (a term used loosely by an ignorant newbie) such as N/N, n/n, N/n, etc. and their meanings?

 

[lilmillefleur]

Excellent! This is what I’m looking for.

Now, for one baby step forward, where do I find all the “symbols” (a term used loosely by an ignorant newbie) such as N/N, n/n, N/n, etc. and their meanings?

I found this more advanced version of the chicken calc. with other genes for comb, muffs/beard, legs, etc. Tells you the name of the 'symbols' (I forget what they're called too. I thought I was an expert!).

 

[Mimi13]

I found this more advanced version of the chicken calc. with other genes for comb, muffs/beard, legs, etc. Tells you the name of the 'symbols' (I forget what they're called too. I thought I was an expert!).

There was no link to the words “this more advanced version of the chicken calc.” even though it is hilighted in the reply.

ETA: The link is working now. Thank you bunches!

 

[Mimi13]

You could put dividers in the incubator to keep them separated.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...hing-different-breeds-in-an-incubator.457341/

Excellent info in this thread. I have some of the plastic craft grid that I will use. It will be PERFECT!

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

- Rose and pea combs are dominant
- Feathered legs are dominant
- Crests are dominant
- Beards/muffs are dominant
- Naked neck is dominant (does your hen have a completely naked neck or some feathers at the base of her neck?)
- Brown + white = light brown eggs, brown + blue = green eggs, brown + green = darker green/brown(?)


Buff orpington x welsummer = basically a lighter colored welsummer with a lot of buff leakage

Cream legbar x welsummer = roos will have a single copy of the barring gene and hens won't

Speckled sussex x welsummer = darker chicks, will carry mottling without showing it

Rhode island red x welsummer = chicks with a lot of red

Silver laced wyandotte x welsummer = some lacing, or maybe none at all

Gold laced wyandotte x welsummer = same as SLW, except no silver

Columbian wyandotte x welsummer = columbian w/ red leakage

Barred rock x welsummer = roos will be barred w/ red leakage, hens won't be barred

White rock x welsummer = not sure

Naked neck x welsummer = I don't know the color of the NN, so color of the chicks is unknown. If the NN has two copies of the naked neck gene (no feathers at all on neck) all chicks will be naked necked. If she has one copy (feathers at base of neck), half of the chicks will be naked necked.

Dominique x welsummer = same as BR, except rose comb

Buckeye x welsummer = same as RIR except pea comb

Barnevelder x welsummer = not sure

Black ameraucana x welsummer = same color as BR except no barring

Australorp x welsummer = same color as AM

Partridge cochin x welsummer = not sure

Easter egger x welsummer = not sure


NOTE: These are all educated guesses from looking at many pictures of different color crosses and color genetics threads.

Please keep us updated with your chicks!

 

[Mimi13]

- Rose and pea combs are dominant
- Feathered legs are dominant
- Crests are dominant
- Beards/muffs are dominant
- Naked neck is dominant (does your hen have a completely naked neck or some feathers at the base of her neck?)
- Brown + white = light brown eggs, brown + blue = green eggs, brown + green = darker green/brown(?)


Buff orpington x welsummer = basically a lighter colored welsummer with a lot of buff leakage

Cream legbar x welsummer = roos will have a single copy of the barring gene and hens won't

Speckled sussex x welsummer = darker chicks, will carry mottling without showing it

Rhode island red x welsummer = chicks with a lot of red

Silver laced wyandotte x welsummer = some lacing, or maybe none at all

Gold laced wyandotte x welsummer = same as SLW, except no silver

Columbian wyandotte x welsummer = columbian w/ red leakage

Barred rock x welsummer = roos will be barred w/ red leakage, hens won't be barred

White rock x welsummer = not sure

Naked neck x welsummer = I don't know the color of the NN, so color of the chicks is unknown. If the NN has two copies of the naked neck gene (no feathers at all on neck) all chicks will be naked necked. If she has one copy (feathers at base of neck), half of the chicks will be naked necked.

Dominique x welsummer = same as BR, except rose comb

Buckeye x welsummer = same as RIR except pea comb

Barnevelder x welsummer = not sure

Black ameraucana x welsummer = same color as BR except no barring

Australorp x welsummer = same color as AM

Partridge cochin x welsummer = not sure

Easter egger x welsummer = not sure


NOTE: These are all educated guesses from looking at many pictures of different color crosses and color genetics threads.

Please keep us updated with your chicks!

I know y’all can’t see me but I’m doing a happy dance!
This is the info I want and now that I have it I want to study it more, become more versed in it. I definitely am not gonna be a big breeder, but I do want to know this kind of stuff. One thing for sure is to learn about the “barring” gene. It seems to be in many, many breeds.

My NN is a Buff Bowtie.

If you don’t mind, I’d like to indulge you a moment. This is simply for my learning benefit, but definitely tell me if something I’ve said is absolutely taboo (regarding the breeding.)

Since I’m a math person, here goes:

If N/N = Complete Naked Neck and N/n = Bowtie and n/n = Feathered Neck, would the following scenario be probable?

Let’s say my N/n x Welsummer produced a N/n cockerel (possible?) and I bred that said cockerel back to the N/n mother. Would my hatch possibilities be N/N, N/n & n/n offspring? Or since both N/n’s never had two N/N genes there would be no way to produce a N/N?