do you consider a bird/breed to be pure if?

[speckledhen]

I agree with Kev. I'd say they are purebreds, but possibly non-standard colors due to not being separated by color, such as if I bred my Blue Orp roo to a Buff Orp hen. Still a purebred Orpington in my book, but the color won't match either one of the parents exactly.

 

[mario2girls]

that is why i asked,,i didnt want to give them as pure,,because i feel/know they arent,,in color,,,,atleast,,,,

my polish eggs, i hatched from a pen of splash hen, silver laced hen, gold laced hen, and white crested blue roo,,
getting out of 1o chicks, some white crested blue,... some white crested black,,,and the rest are black either all black , or black with a bluish tint in the crest...

also, wanted to see what i get from a d;uccle pen of a porc, hen, a mottled hen,with a mille roo,,,,,havent hatched any yet there....

playing with colors a little,,but just for fun,,,
so instead of a big barnyard mix mess,,,getting a big barnyard color mess,,,,sort of, but not really,

 

[Kev]

Perfect term- non-standard colors.

That's a good genetic lesson you're doing there. It is fun!

hint: porcelain is just the lavender version of a mille.. lavender is a recessive also.. also you have the potential to make blue laced gold & silver laced with blue lacing out of your polish.

 

[EweSheep]

Like my Amercuana bantams which they are all true Amercuana by breed but one is an offspring of a buff Amercuana bantam x Blue Wheaton hen so she is fully purebred Amercuana but not color specific. Calico Amercuana might be the thing LOL!

I agree with your topic Kev on GS dogs and other breeds of dogs as well....like the smooth Collie and Rough Collie....both are purebred by catagory but hair coats are different. And the same for the long debatable color, the sable merle which I think they should categorized as a different color...it is resulted from breeding to a sable x merle cross. Nothing wrong with the breed itself but not recognized. They are just as good as the next Collie but some colors are so washed out and there was I think one or two cases of sable merle Champion dogs back in the 1940's and again not too long ago. I forgot their names now.

Well said!

I would say purebred Silkies but mixed colors!

 

[Haviris]

I agree that they are still purebred, if both parents are purebred then the offspring should also be.

If I was selling them I would mention that they are from mixed colors.

One of my danes is a non standard color, but she's still a purebred dane!

 

[jimnjay]

When showing birds The breed is Silkie the Variety is White, Black or whatever color. You mixed color birds would be pure Silkies and the color is mixed. If you make sure to note that they are mixed color then there should be no misunderstanding.

 

[mario2girls]

these are polish chicks,,,
now isnt it funny,,,,i would never mix my silkies,,,,lol

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

If you breed different varieties together that are all the same breed, the chicks should hatch out with the type of the parents, meaning they still breed true to type, so a pure breed, the color would not be standard though. With put type you have no breed, the color is like paint. For example, we got a barred wyandotte chick from our silver laced x dun, it is still a wyandotte bantam, just a different variety. If people didnt cross varieties in the breeds, like OEGB, there wouldnt be that many colors. As far as the whole breed thing goes, some people dont consider araucaunas a pure breed because when you breed 2 tufted rumpless araucanas together, you can get smooth faced rumpless, smooth faced tailed, tufted tailed, tufted rumpless, or a tailed or rumpless bird with 1 tuft.
The standard defines breed as an established group of individuals possessing similar characteristics, and when mated together produce offspring with those same characteristics. A breed may include a number of varieties of the same general weight, distinguished by different color plumage or different types of combs, or comb and color as in dorkings, and some cases, bearded and non-bearded.
Hope that helps.

 

[pips&peeps]

In ameraucans they are not pure if you cross colors.

What are Easter Egg chickens?

The Ameraucana Breeders Club defines an Easter Egg Chicken or Easter Egger as any chicken that possesses the blue egg gene, but doesn’t fully meet any breed description as defined in the APA and/or ABA standards. Further, even if a bird meets a standard breed description, but doesn’t meet a variety description or breed true at least 50% of the time it is considered an Easter Egg chicken.​

 

[seedcorn]

To me, it would depend on breed what I thought about them. If I was buying light brahma's, I received a cross between dark/light brahma's, I would not be happy and think I got sold "mutts".

EE's are what make this of topic--but this is not a recognized breed for shows. Plus certain breeds are bred into "pure" lines for color/type, etc, then the rule is 9 generations of line breeding and it's a "pure" line again. That's why certain colors may not breed "true" to type/color. In black cochins, you still can get some red feathers once and while.