does any one keep mourning doves as pets

[FireTigeris]

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You can keep birds protected under the Migratory Bird Act, but you have to get a permit. Even raptors such as hawks can be kept with special permits.

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Correct.

 

[KWAK]

How do you get a permit?

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

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You have to take classes for training on how to properly rehab certain animals. You need a Federal Migratory Bird Permit for Rehab first. According to the form here in NC.
http://www.ncwildlife.org/License/documents/WildlifeRehabilitatorLicense.pdf

I would contact the Fish/Wildlife Resources place in your state to see what all you need to do, where to go, fees, etc.

When I looked this up a couple years ago, I found more information. Now I can't find squat. When I looked it up before, there were two separate wildlife rehab licenses/permits. A State one, which lets you rehab animals like skunks and such. Then the Federal one which covers protected animals and birds. Of course you don't even need a permit to begin with if you're taking care of House Sparrows or Starlings, as they aren't native or endangered or protected by anything like that. But it's when you find birds like Cardinals and Mourning Doves, that you need a license.

 

[usschicago1]

It is illegal, but I wouldn't worry about that, chances are you will never get caught. Also, you are doing this bird a favor.
A) You werent the one who took it from the wild
B) It could never be released back into the wild, it is already attached and dependent on humans.

Enjoy him/ her

 

[laughingdog]

funny you can hunt most native animals, but keeping as pets is a crime... also funny keeping a cotton tail rabbit is a crime, as cottontails are non native and actually invasive (though adorable!), as well as red foxes, peregrine falcons, and many more introduced animals that compete with or have all but as well as some wiped out the native counter parts (i knew a guy up north who had a pet injured orphaned field mouse which is non native invasive, and he was taken to jail for it and alot of hassle and stuff, as is still technically illegal to have as pet, but was told if it was just vermin that got in if he threw it out window, or destroyed it he wasnt in trouble, though they originally were looking for drugs weapons or a woman, but non was their or his, as was people who lived their before him, but mutual friend got him the place, so was probable cause to ransack the place, point being no one will care and you can say its a ringneck etc. as obviously not wild, and if someone wants to mess with you they can always find a reason anyway). i had special permission up north by DNR and others to keep certain animals, and was apprentice falconer so could keep native animals for food and training purposes, as well as a falcon/hawk.
i actually heard from some that pigeons and doves are classified with/as foul by some city and state agencies, so considered also illegal in certan places. any way to fight this?

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

I agree, it makes no sense. They are obviously trying to control the population on game animals or they wouldn't allow us to hunt them. I guess they are mostly concerned that if we are allowed to breed them, if they get loose into the wild population, they could introduce diseases to the wild ones that our domestic ones are resistant to or have been treated against but still carry. Like muscovy ducks. The big concern with them is that they bring disease to the wild ducks when they mingle with them at the lakes and rivers.


As far as pigeons and doves being referred to as fowl. You can totally fight it. There's peafowl, guinea fowl, jungle fowl, waterfowl, etc. but have you ever heard of pigeon fowl? No. Just like you've never heard of Sparrow fowl or Blue jay fowl. Just because they are domesticated, does not put them in the same group. And if they want to say that they are used for food...well, yes, some people do eat them. But Herons aren't used for food, nor are they domesticated, but they are still waterfowl. And personally, I think poultry should be limited to chickens, turkey, and I guess ducks and geese if you must. But in the end, when I think poultry, I think chickens. Not even turkey. I don't know why...maybe cause I already think of them as a game animal and my brain won't file them as more than one category, LOL.

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

"Fowl is a word for birds in general but usually refers to birds belonging to one of two biological orders, namely the gamefowl or landfowl (Galliformes) and the waterfowl (Anseriformes). Studies of anatomical and molecular similarities suggest these two groups are close evolutionary relatives; together, they form the fowl clade which is scientifically known as Galloanserae (initially termed Galloanseri)."


"Poultry is a category of domesticated birds kept by humans for the purpose of collecting their eggs, or killing for their meat and/or feathers. These most typically are members of the superorder Galloanserae (fowl), especially the order Galliformes (which includes chickens, quails and turkeys) and the family Anatidae (in order Anseriformes), commonly known as "waterfowl" (e.g. domestic ducks and domestic geese). Poultry also includes other birds which are killed for their meat, such as pigeons or doves or birds considered to be game, like pheasants. Poultry comes from the French/Norman word, poule, itself derived from the Latin word Pullus, which means small animal."


Personally, I do not consider pigeons or doves poultry. While some people do eat pigeons, most do not. A lot of people do eat doves, as in wild doves. I have never heard of anyone eating domestic doves like ringnecks or diamond doves. They are simply too small and the meat you get from them isn't worth the feed it takes to raise them. Pigeons on the other hand, the majority of pigeon fanciers do NOT eat their birds. It's more of a delicacy that you'd find in fancy restaurants here in the US. It's more common in Asia. It's like ostriches. Sometimes they are used as poultry, but not very often. So most do not consider them poultry.
I also don't eat duck or goose, so that's why I don't tend to group them with poultry either. Although I know they are widely considered poultry by others. They are pets on my property

 

[laughingdog]

thanks, as i was going to go into the whole what is considered fowl and why, and as they are considered for production and under fowl classification exempt from most to all general humane animal keeping laws, so know it was set up for disease prevention, but the laws were around other places, but especially here, redone to lessen or eradicate the even bare minimal standards of space, shade, cleanliness and food and water access for, as well as keeping up with health and medications and such even required for house pets. it just frustrates me, that the laws are being redone to cater to those corrupt and just want more money and not caring at all about animals and consumers coming into contact with, let alone ingesting, yet pet laws continue to get stricter and blamed for all these diseases and such other things, like supposed escaped pets taking over, when we all with brains know that its so much more probable that hundreds getting loose from a commercial breeder, is alot more likely for a sudden population explosion of non native species and diseases, than one or two pets a year alone that could happen to avoid every danger, find each other over vast distances, and then be compatible, know how to survive and breed raising all their young out to breeding age to explode a population of one animal or multiple diseases. or am i mistaken and these certain miracles happen constantly?

 

[TV]

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Not quite sure I understand your post, cotton tails, red foxes and peregrine falcons are all native indigenous species.

 

[laughingdog]

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Not quite sure I understand your post, cotton tails, red foxes and peregrine falcons are all native indigenous species.

no.. actually red foxes, as well as cotton tails and the black and brown rat, and "common" field mouse are all imports. peregrines were imported for hunting sport, as some others were, but all are established now, and taken over or joined niches of native animals, but most see them as native now, as theyve been here so long. for a while we were trying to eradicate the red fox from areas were the native grey fox were being pushed out (though greys can climb, so dont see the conflict, and also were english imported red foxes, as they dont climb so make better "sport" to chase around and hunt by hounds, same as cotton tails on the hunting and eradicating were they were pushing out native burrowing rabbits and hares..), history is an interesting thing, and makes me curious of what the hardiest animals will be left after a while. wait, we are talking about the usa, that the poster is from, right?

just build a place outside for it to come and go, and let it hang out with food and water and nesting spots out of sun wind and rain, as today put my pigeons, doves, and exotics (that arnt nesting already to far along), out on balcony, and after bit, the area was full of birds including mourning doves.. only one young one i almost picked up off of cage and put back in, thinking it was an escaped one, when suddenly realized it was tiny mourning dove next to my pidgey and even ringnecks. the trouble woud be if any brought sickness in, so im trying to chase them off the balcony so i can let my birds out to fly and perch there, though their so cute, just like when had bunnies down in yard how the other rabbits would try to get to them through fence at feeding time and such (also had this trouble with stray chickens.. lol). "if you built it they will come". really.. its true.