Does anyone feed chickens "the old fashioned" way?

My 4th great grandmother used to keep a journal of what happened when she moved to Kansas (1900's). Chickens back then were housed and raised much differently then they are today. She used to speak about watching the chickens roost up in the trees or on top of the house, (Kansas used to have almost NO trees, but she spoke how they used to use trees back in Virgina) Chasing them out of the garden all day long in the summer (remember, back then, most people, atleast in kansas, had gardens large enough to not only feed their family for the summer, but also enough to can or store to make it though winter.) and the chickens getting in trouble by raiding the seed bins (bins of grain the farmers saved over winter to help replant over the spring if sections failed to survive the winter and also used to supplement ALL the farm animals in the blizzards when nessacary). Just about every family had cattle or goats, usually a mule or horse, and sometimes pigs (the way she wrote about them though, they were a bit rarer.)


I wish I could just can and upload the journal for you to peruse, but unfortunately it is just too large...
What I did do was find links to other websites that sort of speak about the same things.
http://www.plamondon.com/faq_feed.html
This website really speaks about how chickens of the past used to be fed, and what the health outcomes were for the chickens. While I dont agree with the whole article, his point number 2 does sort of set up how chickens used to be raised... The main point to take from the article is how extremely large of a space you will need to maintain a small flock of even 2 hens and a roo over the winter.

http://www.americanheritage.com/content/chicken-story?page=2

Here is a crediable source on how chickens USED to be raised. The link starts you on page two because that is where the bulk of what you were asking about is on.


Overall, you cant just get 15 modern day chickens and let them be self-sufficent but still produce well on just 2 or 3 acres. What might be able to achieve though, through careful planning, culls and land space, is a large flock of old-breed chickens in the summer with little or no suppliments beyond kitchen scraps maybe, and in the winter, a very small flock of non-producing animals, that most likely will need atleast some minor supplimentation just due to the fact that modern conditions just are not the same.
 
Wanted to a quote from the last source... Something that brings up why most people say it really just isnt as possible now a days to raise healthy chickens without feeding atleast something extra (Not saying it is impossible though!)

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Huh? Are you sure you posted this in the right forum? Also, why do you dislike hybrid chickens? I've only ever heard that cross breeding often led to more vigorous chicks (hybrid vigor), or are you referring to more industrial farming type crosses bred for maximum size/meat or maximum production?
 
Huh? Are you sure you posted this in the right forum? Also, why do you dislike hybrid chickens? I've only ever heard that cross breeding often led to more vigorous chicks (hybrid vigor), or are you referring to more industrial farming type crosses bred for maximum size/meat or maximum production?

yeah. I did post it where I intended. I dont dislike hybrid chickens. In fact I have some myself.

I was not only stating, but showing sources to prove how chicken genetics as a whole have changed over 100 years,Paired with the fact that modern lifestyles just are not the same... All of which leads to the fact that you will not be able to feed chickens that same way as it was done in the old days, atleast not without extremely detailed planning. Modern industry that supplies chicken feed has shaped chicken genetics...
 
My dad (85y.o.) says they occasionally thru out a handful of oats to the chickens, other than that, they were on their own. They did come into the chicken house at night but I don't believe he ever mentioned having to let them out and he said they always had a creek near the chicken house. He never mentioned giving them table scraps but I doubt they had much leftover anyway. Anyway that is at least 75 years ago.
 
(located in Montpelier, the state capitol) has made just such a paradigm shift, and his experience is instructive. As part of his composting operation, Karl raises 1200 layers—production far beyond that of most readers of this magazine. If you think his feed bills are astronomical indeed, you’re wrong. Karl doesn’t feed his layers any grain or purchased feed. Whatsoever.

http://www.themodernhomestead.us/article/A+Paradigm+Shift.html
 
I stumbled acroos this thread because was looking to see if anyone fed their chickens like I do. I have had chickens about a year. When we first got them (4, 2 buff orphs. and 2 RIRs), we fed layer feed, scratch, and they had access to some grass which they quickly ate. Then they became free rangers, with access to 6 acres, but they stay on only about 2 1/2. We moved their coop, and one got eaten by a dog, and other things happened. And I noticed that they weren't really eating their layer feed. On top of that, it wasn't worth refilling it just for it to get wet, seeing as the girls liked to drag it out right before rain storms. So Iong story short, I had 3 chickens that free range on 2 1/2 acres of pasture and forest with access to 6 acres. One of my Buff orphs. went broody ( both of them did actually, but I didn't trust the other) and got 6 eggs. 3 hatched, and I bought medicated chick feed (better safe than sorry). They probly ate it for 1 day, then Mama took them outside and they haven't been back in (couldn't figure out the ramp). She sat and hatched the in the coop ith the other hens, on a nest at floor level. I finally took the feed awaay, bc the other hens were getting it, and they are growing beautifully without it. (They are a little over a week old now
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). They are Dominique/RIR crosses, and so far are excellent little foragers. To sum it up, I am raising 6 chickens on free range alone with scratch thrown out occasionally. Right now I'm getting an egg a day from my RIR, and as the other to hens are too busy being and trying to be mamas they aren't laying right now. I love the eggs I get from my girls, so beautiful and vibrant. And I love how I'm feeding now bc I know that what they are eating is natural and safe, and there is not chance of us ingesting anything harmful.I haven't bought layer feed in months and don't plan on buying it at any point in the near future.
 
CountryChicks....I love how you raise your chicks. I too got frustrated buying chicken feed only to have most of it wasted, either it would get wet or just sit there. My chickens free range during the day and do not even touch the feed, only when I dont let them out for a few days, due to weather or being away. As soon as I open there door they rush out like crazy and they are fat and healthy. They are 4 months and I have set up a nesting box for the girls. They are happy and I have stopped buying so much feed.
 
(located in Montpelier, the state capitol) has made just such a paradigm shift, and his experience is instructive. As part of his composting operation, Karl raises 1200 layers—production far beyond that of most readers of this magazine. If you think his feed bills are astronomical indeed, you’re wrong. Karl doesn’t feed his layers any grain or purchased feed. Whatsoever.


I wonder how many people do something similar on a smaller scale. Someone made the great point above about average egg production being much higher than 100 years ago, requiring a better diet....but how bad a drop off in production (and bird health) would you see if you fed by going with a mix of free ranging, access to active compost piles, and food scrap?

For more than a few birds, it's unlikely one family could create enough food scraps on a regular basis, but by collecting scraps from friends, family, neighbors, co-workers, or local restaurants or grocery stores, I'm sure it would be possible to get enough.

I guess getting the correct nutritional mix (enough protein, for example) could be a challenge?
 
You all must have dogs to protect your flocks,.... or be away from neighbors with dogs.. only thing I have is an outdoor CAT (showed up in last November. we had him fixed) It would cost too much to fence in this place( been here 2 years, semi rural area)... plus too old to want to
occasionally will look ,or be outside and see stray dogs or some neigbors dogs on our property...
I dont want any yakky dogs.... Neighbors just little up the hill... dogs bark at every sound from dusk to dawn) It is so irritating....
I do let the Big chickens out about 1/2 hr right before their bedtime..... Even then the five wont stay together. I am so tired by then... One hen is over there another over there .. they wont stay close.. Owls and hawks, skunks, coyotes, possums, who knows what else,,, are around us, sides and back
....Plus we have a busy street out front and even busier main road down the hill...
Heck if I want to spend 12 hours a day checking out where the chickens are or if they are still alive...... and never get to sit down.....

heck, we don really have any food scraps. Last nite, just green bean ends and several squash tops or ends.... I dont waste much food. Oh I did give the 3 months old set of chickens( straight run I bought( turned out 3 roos and one baby Girl,duh LOL) a small piece of Farmers market cantaloupe and the seeds from.Also the left over rind parts of one of the cantaloupes.. The other set of older ( bought from Flea Mkt back march 1st, four hens and large Roo) would not eat the cantaloupe pulp just seeds....
I would like to see what the 3 month old would do..... if they were free to roam. Heck I bet the 3 young roos would run down the hills into the woods... But I might as well feed them to the "predators" yeah, I wanted to free range... but this chicken business is not as glamourous as I thought . some days are lucky to get one egg. some day three eggs. plus I have a broody hen who has no eggs under her.... Gonna go and gently push her out of the nest box for the fourth or 5 th time, she looks sickly and pale after days prob well over a week at a time... on that nest..
 

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