DOG ALLERGIC TO EVERYTHING-meds making him vomit:( UPDATE 11/5/11

[chicknmania]

I probably should mention that our vet didn't recommend Purina specifically; he jjust said fish-based food and that's what we use. I was interested to see other's opinions
of it.

Also forgot to mention that he told us to use baby shampoo if we bathe her, and that the yogurt (which someone else mentioned) does seem to help too.

If I had to recommend anything that seems to help the most, I would say the Livaplex and the Bitter Apple spray. Worth trying.

 

[sonew123]

I think I should mention again. It was not his food that made him ill it was his meds The meds are supposed to help him not FEEL the urge to scratch-itch-lick-chew himself to pieces. It was working but is too strong for him and thus making him vomit all his food. Now Im not saying the food didnt create his issues though...Im seriously thinking its not his food that is causing his issues and that its his total environment-polllen, trees, hay, grass, cats, chickens, etc... I would feel so bad if I find out his #1 allergy is the birds! But he's not near them at all ( he'll hurt them) He goes for wlks 4-5 a day and I think just being outside does it to him...We'll see after what the doc says...He took his last pill Friday night...I sat there and petted and loved him all night last night and stared at him all over-the meds were really starting to do a good job--no hot spots visible-fur growing in -in spots that have been bare and bloody red ( not bleeding just RED) for over a year...

 

[watchdogps]

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Yes, but the meds are needed because his TRUE illness is not being treated properly. Even with allergy treatment, you will need to address the systemic yeast infection. Goes like this - alleegy makes them susceptible to the yeast, yeast takes hold, and now it will stay even if the allergy gets treated. Frankly, it my not even be allergies at all, so you could ave yourself a lot of aggravation and $ by going with my suggestion. Also, if it is allergies, and the yeast remains untreated, it will appear that the allergy. Treatment isn't working.
A raw diet is the IDEAL allergy diet, because you can feed them ONE thing and determine if that thing makes them react or not. It is also the ideal yeast fighting diet because there are no carbs/starches/sugars to feed the yeast.

 

[sonew123]

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Yes, but the meds are needed because his TRUE illness is not being treated properly. Even with allergy treatment, you will need to address the systemic yeast infection. Goes like this - alleegy makes them susceptible to the yeast, yeast takes hold, and now it will stay even if the allergy gets treated. Frankly, it my not even be allergies at all, so you could ave yourself a lot of aggravation and $ by going with my suggestion. Also, if it is allergies, and the yeast remains untreated, it will appear that the allergy. Treatment isn't working.
A raw diet is the IDEAL allergy diet, because you can feed them ONE thing and determine if that thing makes them react or not. It is also the ideal yeast fighting diet because there are no carbs/starches/sugars to feed the yeast.

Ok how long do you feed them the specific diet do determine if its something he cant tolerate and break out again??? 30 days on it? Im still researching that raw diet book-My friend thinks she has it so Im waiting to hear back from her before I go out and buy the book-HEck anywhere I can save a little $ at this point helps!

 

[watchdogps]

Which book?
Yes, generally a month is a good time frame. Youmust be totally strict though. NO food other than the food he is getting. No treats made of anything elesee etc.

 

[Marcymom3]

It is our nature to bathe smelly pups, I know. How about if you bathe him without shampoo and massage his skin, then give him a rinse of baking soda water? Maybe a cup in a gallon of water. It is very soothing and will also help with the odor.

 

[sonew123]

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I will...he really never gets treats to begin with--we were gtood with him that way NOT the chihuahua

...So with Noah that will be easy as he really doesn't beg for things or anything really

 

[tonkatuff]

Also forgot to mention that he told us to use baby shampoo if we bathe her, and that the yogurt (which someone else mentioned) does seem to help too.

Never heard of a vet telling a client w/ a severely allergic pet to use baby shampoo (Water, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, PEG-80 Sorbitan Laurate, Sodium Trideceth Sulfate, PEG-150 Distearate, Fragrance, Polyquaternium-10, Tetrasodium EDTA, Quaternium-15, Citric Acid, Yellow 10 and Orange 4. May also contain: Citric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide.) Yes just the thing for angry,inflamed & bacteria laden PET skin

The best shampoo (veterinary DERMATOLOGIST tested & recommended) http://www.douxo.us/dermatology/douxo-dermatology-dogs-allergies-shampoo.html
[http://www.douxo.us/dermatology/douxo-dermatology-dogs-allergies-shampoo.html][/url]​

 

[WoodlandWoman]

Ginger can help with nausea. We used it for our cocker spaniel that had to take a chemo drug for Cushings disease. A few pieces of candied ginger kept him from throwing up or sitting around looking sick to his stomach, constantly swallowing, trying to keep everything down. You can also get it in capsules.

We also gave him milk thistle, to help with the liver toxicity of the meds. It improved his liver enzyme numbers. This also comes in capsules.

A couple of our cockers have had allergies and been hypothyroid. One of them was a lot like your dog sounds. The vets we tried didn't get us anywhere. Eventually I called the vet school at the state university and got him an appointment with the dermatologist there. I had to wait quite a few months at the time to get in, but it was so worth it. When a dog has serious problems, a dermatologist is really the way to go.

I had to fill out a questionnaire that was several pages long, so they could get an idea of what the patterns and extent of the problem was.

One of the first things the vet did was do a thyroid test. My dog was hypothyroid and some very cheap pills helped his skin immensely, including the yeast problems in his feet and ears. He had secondary seborrhea, caused by his other medical problems and this was producing an environment on his skin that the yeast found very easy to multiply in. I think that was the time we got a prescription filled at a pharmacy for people, for a systemic yeast medication. We were also given a medicated shampoo and ear medication.

He had me bath my dog regularly and clean his ears regularly. A healthy dog doesn't need to be bathed or have his ears cleaned with the same frequency as a dog with medical problems that affect the skin. A healthy dog isn't producing as much ear wax and skin oil. Malaseb has a flushing action that can be useful for an active case of hot spots. I don't use it routinely.

We did the skin testing. That wasn't all that helpful in my dog's case. Actually, it ruled out a lot of things as allergens, so that was helpful.

He also had me do a food trial. This allowed us to find out exactly which food ingredients my dog was allergic to. Trying different commercial foods, without knowing what the allergy is, can take forever and never be successful. They just have so many different ingredients. Sometimes, it's best to make the commitment to a food trial and just get it over with. Raw or cooked food would work for the purpose of allergy testing. The food trial was very helpful.

I'm sorry you're having to go through all this. I hope you can find out what some of the underlying problems or allergies are and also find a management protocol that can make your life more livable on a day to day basis.

 

[chicknmania]

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Never heard of a vet telling a client w/ a severely allergic pet to use baby shampoo (Water, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, PEG-80 Sorbitan Laurate, Sodium Trideceth Sulfate, PEG-150 Distearate, Fragrance, Polyquaternium-10, Tetrasodium EDTA, Quaternium-15, Citric Acid, Yellow 10 and Orange 4. May also contain: Citric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide.) Yes just the thing for angry,inflamed & bacteria laden PET skin

The best shampoo (veterinary DERMATOLOGIST tested & recommended) http://www.douxo.us/dermatology/douxo-dermatology-dogs-allergies-shampoo.html
[http://www.douxo.us/dermatology/douxo-dermatology-dogs-allergies-shampoo.html][/url]

Well....are you a vet? I have heard other vets say you can use baby shampoo on any animal where they need a gentle shampoo.