dogs .... dumb question

[ninjapoodles]

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I put a couple of majors on Reggie myself, but we've pretty much either had them ringsided, or sent them out with handlers. Poodles are just SO hard to finish owner-handled, and we only have a couple of shows a year in our area.

 

[glowworm]

Yeah, listen to everyone that says through the kennel/fence breedings will happen, because its common. Those dogs will find a way

If your grump just went in season, you should be fine, females aren't receptive that early. I would keep the wannabe stud chained up in the meanwhile so he doesn't jump the fence again.

I have one show grump and I don't think I would EVER house a intact dog at the same time. I wouldn't want to deal with it

 

[lengel]

I took a supersmart mutt pup from a breeder of champion dogs. We train our labs at her facility. I don't know what the story was but the end result was a mutt litter. I fell in love with one of the pups and she approved DH and I as adopters based on what she had seen of us.

Big warning though. Both parents were tested to the nth degree but my little girl wound up with elbow dyplasia in both front legs. Genetics is a bit of a gamble so be sure to have the capacity to take back puppies who exhibit these types of problems.

(My little girl is much better by the way. We had arthroscopy done and her left leg had a bone chip as well as an OCD area where the orthopedic surgeon removed a big chunk of cartilage and shaved down the bone. She's on four different kinds of supplements and is two sessions away from completing her intensive hydrotherapy. All of the vets are happy with her progress so we can let her run a bit after three months of recovery. She'll be nine months old on the 7th.)

 

[ninjapoodles]

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Absolutely correct on both counts. Dysplasia (and other health issues, like bloat) is/are really a crap-shoot, and you can minimize your chances, but you never know when it will pop up unexpectedly.

We are responsible for, and willing to take back any of our dogs at any time--as long as they live. A couple of years ago, due to an unforeseen change of circumstances in the owners' lives, I had to go through a maze of logistical problems when I wound up having to re-claim a dog we had sent to live in Canada. THAT was tricky and expensive, but it was our responsibility. That's a little more manageable for us with miniature poodles than it would be with Norwegian Elkhounds, both because the litters are larger and the dogs themselves are larger. If a whole litter developed a problem, and you had to take them back, you'd have a heck of a housing situation!

 

[greyhorsewoman]

Ninjapoodle has given you a lot of good advice. Yes, breeding through chainlink is VERY possible. Do as someone suggested and mark the calendar. The fact that your male was 'laying' outside the kennel (did him seem more docile?) is a possible giveaway.

Years ago, we had a male that refused to eat when my grump was in season. I even took him to my mother's for most of the cycle and he wouldn't eat right for her either. When he came home, I left him romp with her. He ended up with gastric torsion ... so be careful.

 

[tpflabs]

OH absolutely keep him tied, chained or whatever you need to do.. My second litter ever was an Oops.. thru the kennel fence..chain link, ended up with 13 puppies, This was after I had bred my girl with very expensive frozen semen from across the country, and my boy, who by the way, was supposed to be sterile, had tied her thru the chain link.. I had bred my yellow to a yellow, should have had all yellow pups, NOPE we had 11 blacks and only 2 yellow.. HMMM, wonder if that could have been my black studs puppies???
SO after DNA testing on all 13 we found out who daddy was..turns out, the frozen semen didn't take, and Rebel was the daddy of them all..

 

[EngieKisses]

Ninja, I show ours. We usually ringside for majors though. I have two I am working on now. The one in my avater is my bred by. I am considering the show in Hot Springs next. Engies are getting harder to finish without sending them out.

OK, on the subject....You have to be really careful on genetics and breeders a lot of times will tell you only a small portion of what they know is in their line.

 

[ninjapoodles]

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I waited YEARS for my perfect BBE candidate, and now that I have him, I don't have the time or money to get out and show him! One of these days. Good luck getting the majors you need!