Dominant White or Recessive White

[chirpingcricket]

Once I mated a white Leghorn bantam male with a Ancona female. The males in this Ancona line would show some red in the hackle. Early on the chicks appeared to be solid white, but then they stared showing a buff color on their bodies with the white mottle of the Ancona. I suspected that the dominant white covered up the black, but allowed the red to appear as a buff color. Unfortunately, all the chicks died before maturity. It was interesting that the red appeared as a solid buff color, rather than the red pattern found in a wild type male. I don't know how this would have appeared had they lived to maturity

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[ShayBaby]

I realize this thread is 4 1/2 years old now but I have a question regarding this subject. I know this will sound n00bish, but I've never been good with genetics. I have a White Rock cockerel. Would this be a dominant or recessive white? And what would that mean for his offspring? I thought of breeding him with some of my colored gals (namely my BR hens) just to see what came from it, but, not understanding genes, would all of his babies just be white?...diluted?...

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

White rocks are usually dominant white, which means they need additional genes to be completely white. Some of the likely genes for this include silver, barring & blue, so don't be surprised if those come through in the offspring.

 

[ShayBaby]

Excellent! Thank you! I'm just a backyard hobbyist so I was hoping he'll throw some beautiful mixed babies to pretty up my lawn.

 

[lawatt]

just adding to this thread to say thanks for the information -- i have two birchen marans (black) parent birds that yesterday hatched out two yellow chicks, and so i've been trying to understand the genetics that might have produced them!

 

[nicalandia]

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those yellow chicks will grow out to be Wheaten Maran, there are alot of black/copper marans with the Wheaten gene hidden inside, as wheaten is fully recessive to Birchen or Extended black you cant see it on the parents, that is untill you cross two bird with the recessive wheaten gene(recessive to birchen) you get chicks like these

 

[lawatt]

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wow, how interesting! i had no idea! thank you!

 

[thecuriouslynx]

Urban Coyote, thank you for your simplicity. I need it to begin to understand and am hoping you could explain a bit more?

Does anyone know if this is the same with egg color? I have an Ameraucana/EE hen from one of my blue and green laying hens which lays a totally white egg. And three more which lay eggs which are almost white. They have just a very slight tinge of blue to them. So if I have a partial grasp on this, it means that my total white egg layer has two recessive white genes, one from each parent, which is why daddy rooster from a blue egg and momma from a blue egg did not pass on blue egg to baby. And this means if I breed double recessive white egg gene hen to a different rooster out of a blue egg the baby has a good chance of laying a blue egg and not a white. Yes? Unless the new rooster gives a recessive white gene too. I am trying to stop my head from spinning right now. And does the no muff, no beard gene link with the white egg gene? Meaning will all three things show up together?

Also, is rumpless dominant? Or recessive? I apparently have a rooster who's gene's when crossed with some of my hens are throwing tailless babies (they free range and pasture breed).. I have seven of different colors so I believe more than just one hen was the mother and the only common denominator is the roo. Will a rumpless rooster throw a rumpless baby out of a hen with a tail?

I am getting interesting colors and all these things I have never had before in my flock. I did not get any of this with my first rooster. Not sure if I should be excited or exasperated by it all. The current rooster is a nice wheaton with an orange mane, black body and nice full tail. son of my first rooster.

I'm trying to breed for better birds but am not sure what is happening...

 

[n8ivetxn]

 

[hens a plenty]

Genetics has always fascinated me. I have always had some backyard chickens we don't keep roosters very long and our current rooster Is a White Rock. We have Rode Island reds and a buff and some Well Summers and Ameraucanas. We hatched a set of chicks and all the chicks were born with white fluff. I find it interesting that even the Ameraucanas who usually have interesting colors were also born with white fluff. If there is anyone in the poultry world that could explain this to me in layman terms, I would be most grateful and interested.
Thanks