Droppings?

[SpikeDmax]

I have searched and read the topics on droppings but didn't find an answer...I have a hen that consistently drops heavy, wet and runny poo and I think that is all she ever drops and has been doing so for the 2+ months I've had her. Is this normal? My other hen has nice round normal looking poo. Both hens are about 17 weeks old.

Concerned.

 

[Shadowhills Farm]

Here's a GREAT site that shows PICS of what normal and abnormal poop looks like in chickens!


http://chat.allotment.org.uk/index.php?topic=17568.0


Good luck and hope this helps!

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

two things effect dropings
the bird is wormy needs treated
the bird needs treated for coccidiosis
here is my help to do so
for coccidiosis
I personally wouls treat them for coccidiosis
It will drop the amount of eggs yo are getting but the wet mash probiotic and vitamins will bring back the good laying
their insides will feel better and stop inside bleeding/
here is my way of doing it that has worked for many

Coccidiosis/two meds/vit's/wet mash probiotic
Basically you can get coccidiosis more than once
as stated because of the 9 different kinds of coccidiosis

here is my way of doing this treatment

THE WET MASH WITH THE MEDICATION IS GIVEN FIRST TWO MORNINGS or evenings which ever you start with

AS WELL AS IN THE WATER USE THE MEDICATION
and remember to use it full time either 5-7 days but do not start and then no bloody droppings DO NOT STOP treating with medication

#1 FOR COCCIDIOSIS

Use medication of choice
I give both medications and amts to put in the wet mash medicated with either corid or sulmet

also use the corid or sulmet in the water at same time for 5-7 days
SULMET )
A) for the flock do this
THIS CAN BE MADE INTO
1 QT OF DRY FEED
2 QTS OF WATER
AND THEN ADD THE 2 TSPS OF SULMET

CORID
If using corid 9.6% for the flock
1 QT OF of dry mash
2 QTS of water
add 2 tsp of corid 9.6% to the water
feed 2 tbsp per chicken for a feeding
feed this two mornings to get the medication in the birds
also at same time put the corid or sulmet in the drinking water for 7 days
each chicken gets 2 tbsp of the wet mash with coccidiosis meds

speckled hen gives corid(9.6%) liquid in 2 tsp per gallon of water a

And after medicating give the following things
either the corid amproylium or the sulmet will work but now you have a difficient gut problem with the E.coli
and it needs to have the Vitamin E put in the wet mash probiotic to help the E.coli gut problem

do this now the
WET MASH PROBIOTIC TREATMENT
fed after medicating birds is done.

natural probiotic recipe is is:
3 tbsp of dry crumbles
4 tbsp of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some
1 tbsp of yoguart of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetmer)
mix good
AFTER PUTTING VIT'S IN
PUT 1 TBSP OF APPLE SAUCE FOR THE WET MASH PROBIOTIC

NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICKEN FED
and add 1- 400 mg of Vit E for chicks or
( USE 1,00 mg of Vit E for adult chickens)
by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chicken fed this wet mash
putting Vit in the wet mash

OR FOR each chicken your treating
so for each chicken use
for chicks or sub adults
2 tbsp of mixture and 1-400 mg of Vit E
for adults 3 tbsp per bird
twice a day for them till the manure is solid

and feed each chicken
2-3 tbsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles

do this twice a day for a week
till the chickens manure is right
then quit the Vit E make just the wet mash probiotic
then once a week for life

All the while after medicating the birds use
do not use ACV with medication

2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated

they should have this at least 3-5 days a week
then three days aweek after they are over coccidiosis
the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem

email me any questions so you are not confused

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

Here is my advise for worming
WAIT 10 DAYS AFTER WORMING TO EAT EGGS

On the worming
I would suggest that they be wormed first with wazine or peperzine
then Ivermectin pour on is 5% Ivermectin
1% ivermectin is the shot or down the throat kind

the reason for worming 10 days apart is this

the first worming with piperzine or wazine is to take and kill or expell the woms from the gut of the chickens
and that will ease the pressure put on the chickens body from being poisoned by too many killed or expelled round worms at one time

then give the wet mash probiotic inbetween the peperzine or wazineworming
and then the Ivermectin worming

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Do ask them if it is pour on( generally blue in color) so you know if it is 5% drop on flesh
or 1% water soluble for down the throat or in shot with propolene glycol? drops of propolen glycol to one drop of Ivermectin 1% and each chicken gets 4 drops ivermectin for females and 5 drops ivermectin for cockerels adding the appropreate amt of proplene glycol with each drop of ivermectin

Wet mash probiotics are neccessary for the good gut flora to come back after poisoning the worms that were in the chickens gut

worms are very hard on chickens and getting them wormed chemically is very hard on chickens
so a need for wet mash probiotics
better to be safe than sorry

worming twice a yr is plenty with these two wormers
and the wet mash probiotic is for all times when not using mycin antibiotics
yes on a rainy cool spring the wild birds spread the round worms as they eat a lot of earth worms which have the round worm egg larves in their manure
another good reason not to feed earth worms

My friend Randy Henry did a lot of study on worming in his 17 yrs study on Veterinary
here is some of his usage of Ivermectin 1% soluble and 5%

Also severl people use Ivomec wormer 1% water soluble
or 5% and put on the neck skin of the bird.

Injectable 1% is
used inside the bird in injection or in the water also given down the throat
. And
5% is used on the shoulder or neck flesh of the bird only. Not inside the birds mouth.

Directions for 5% ivomec put on shoulder or on the neck
only not internally.
(1 1 drop small bantam such as female OE
(2 2 drops large bantam male like OE
(3 3 drops most bantams
(4 4 drops larger bantams and smaller commercial hens
(5 5 drops commercial large fowl and smaller large
fowl
(5 5 drops Large fowl chicken
(7 7 drops larger males of large fowl breeds of
USING ALL METHODS OF WORMING/SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE
06/21/09 at 15:38:39 DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORMING
Read all this carefully and decide what is your best plan of doing the worming
the 5% drop on is time consuming but the best over all method in my opinion
Nathalie Ross discusses this on her spot here
Glenda L Heywood Brookings SD
http://www.gkpet.com
click on pet forum for articles on poultry
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HERE IS SOME ANSWERS TO USING WAZINE FOR ROUND WORMS AND iVERMECTIN FOR THE OTHERS AND LICE AND MITES
try reading and answering most of your questions on usine
wazine or peperzine for round worms
and Ivermectin 1% water soluble or 5% oil based
ANY QUESTIONS EMAIL THEM TO ME
Glenda L Heywood

ANSWER
my friend Pam Hogan gives this info on using Ivermetin 1% water soluble

Dr. Ron Dickey, of Rogue River Veterinary Hospital, gave us the
following formula for worming with Ivomec, which is safe to use on
any bird, because it goes by the weight of the bird.

Use only 1% injectible cattle formula of Ivomec—not the pour-on.

Dilute the Ivomec 10 fold. Use 9 parts water or propylene glycol to
1 part 1% Ivomec. Use .1cc per lb. of body weight. For smaller
birds, dilute 20/1 and use 1cc per lb. of body weight.

If you are using water, Ivomec is not stable in water, so you have
to keep shaking it well before you draw a dosage. Ivomec is stable
in propylene glycol, and it works much better. You can buy a big
jug of it at most feedstores/farm supplies—it is used for pregnant
sheep, goats and cattle.

Ivomec is effective against internal parasites like trachea worm,
and also takes care of the external parasites. Levasole gets the
capillary worms and some others that the Ivomec doesn't get.
Pam Hogan

ANSWER
My friend Randy Henry did a lot of study on worming in his 17 yrs study on Veterinary
here is some of his usage of Ivermectin 1% soluble and 5% oil based

Also severl people use Ivomec wormer 1% water soluble
or 5% oil based and put on the neck skin of the bird.

Injectable 1% is
used inside the bird in injection or in the water also given down the throat
. And
5% oil based is used on the shoulder of the bird only. Not inside the birds mouth.

Directions for 5% ivomec with oil base put on shoulder
only not internally.
(1 1 drop small bantam such as female OE
(2 2 drops large bantam male like OE
(3 3 drops most bantams
(4 4 drops larger bantams and smaller commercial hens
(5 5 drops commercial large fowl and smaller large
fowl
(5 5 drops Large fowl chicken
(7 7 drops larger males of large fowl breeds of
Chickens.

(A 5% oil type Ivomec Stays on the birds for at least
6 weeks. and is the reason it is only used on the out
side under the feathers on the shoulder of the
chickens. Slow release time.

(B 1% water soulable is injectable and can be used in
the water. also given by mouth

USING 1% IVERMECTIN IN THE WATER
WHICH IS NOT MY PREFERRED USE OF IT????
you have to treat 4 times a yr GLH


Iona wrote:
I leave treated water (4 cc per gallon of water) in the coops for 2
days. It is the only water so everyone drinks. I change the water
mixture every day and more often if it gets dirty. There is a great
margin for safety when using ivermectin so I don't worry about a bird
over dosing on it. I have been using injectable ivermectin mixed with
drinking water for 5 years now and have never had a problem.
GAILsaid this
I use the injectable 1 % solution mixed at 8 cc. per gallon of water to
treat canaries for air sac mites and to worm chickens, budgies,
canaries, cockatiels, etc. I take their water away the night before and
use this solution as the only source of water for 24 hours. It is
important to treat again in 10 days to get all the mites that have
hatched out since the treatment BEFORE they can lay eggs again. For
scaly face/leg mites I treat the birds at least four times.
To prevent heart worms and treat round and hook worms in dogs I use the
same 1% injectable diluted 14 cc. of ivermectin to 86 cc of propylene
glycol, administered orally once a month at a dosage rate of 1 cc for
every ten pounds body weight. This works very well for me, although I
would use caution in giving ivermectin to collies or collie crosses. I
have not had any problem with shetland sheepdogs or border collies, but
your results may vary.
Gail

any questions email me

 

[SpikeDmax]

Thank you for the information...I hope that was a cut and paste and you didn't have to type all that out.

So, what I got is the hen has coccidiosis? Can she have it and not the other hen? And can she have it for several months? I thought it was a terminal illness if not treated? Also, I was feeding my hens chick starter, until recently, which was medicated feed....did it not work?

If it helps this is what the poo looks like....

 

[SpikeDmax]

Update

Now the poo is looking like this....that can't be good? Is this a sign of worms?

Here's the girls...are they looking okay to you?