dubbing henry this weekend and i have some ?'s... W/PICS!!!...

[Kansaseq]

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They make a coagulant powder product called 'Quick Stop' for cutting dog nails. Also have silver nitrate sticks for the same thing. They would probably work better than flour.

People and animals fasting before an anesthetic procedure is more to prevent vomiting and aspiration vs bleeding.

 

[Sootsie]

thanks for the link to the other thread in my opinion its not something i would ever consider and most likely illegal in the UK i guess its another difference between countries. Again not trying to argue or debate thanks for the info.

 

[Maxie1101]

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The coagulant powder product for dogs is called styptic powder and is sold under various brands/names. The one I use is Nik Stop. I'm not promoting that brand, it just happens to be the one my pet supply store sells. It does work very well to stop bleeding. And I agree that fasting before an anesthetic procedure is to prevent vomiting and aspiration.

 

[TurtleFeathers]

If I were doing this (but I'm not), I wouldn't use Quick Stop or other styptic powders or silver nitrate sticks - they BURN LIKE CRAZY when applied to an open wound (speaking from personal experience here). Cornstarch might work better than flour.

 

[Illia]

Ouch, yeah, I'd also certainly do it different next time. . . That's a messy looking cut. (not the cut, but all the dried blood there. . . )

 

[bock]

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Whoops, I didn't see that part.

 

[Kansaseq]

Stupid question: can you do it when they are still chicks? Less blood supply and smaller anatomy might make for a less bloody procedure. I know you wouldn't know the girls from the boys, so would have to do them all...........ok, that's a good enough reason to wait until you have just one that you KNOW you want to dub.
I have no intention of ever doing this, just have an interest in finding the safest, least bloody way to get it done.

 

[NYREDS]

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He said he plans to show the bird. It's a requirement for that particular breed.

To the OP-if you look at the comb of you first male you'll see a curved line on the side of the comb. That's called the dub line. Follow that line when you dub & you'll have the look you want on an OEGB. I don't have anyone hold the bird or the comb. I wrap the bird in a damp towel, lay him on a flat surface, hold the comb with one hand & cut with the other. It's OK to take your time with it. I've never withheld food & water but I don't think it will do any harm either way. I do use some Blood Stop Powder to help stop the bleeding.
Other than cutting too close on that first bird you did a good job especially for a first attempt.

 

[gumbii]

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it does not affect the roo's behavior... let me explain the reason why it's part of the game cock look...


back in the day when they used to fight these birds for sport, they would dub the crest and waddles for fighting... the reason is when these guys fight, that's the first thing they aim for... they grab on to it and kick over and over again... once that happens the fight is over... so to give the birds a chance they do the dubbing... now... that was an actual sport a couple hundred years back... so all of those fighting roo's kept the same look, and now it's standard when you show a game rooster... i also have other roo's like cochins and egg layers, but i'm never gonna dub those... LOL...

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that is exactly why i didn't use the powders at the feed stores... i heard it burns like crazy, and in other videos, i've seen the birds cry in pain when they get the powder on... so don't use it...

thanks for the cornstarch tip... i'll use it tonight or tomorrow...

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that's because i caked on the flour... he did bleed a lot, but not as much as my friend's bird when the old man did it... he did it brutal too with a double sided razor blade on the waddles and ears... then he used scissors for the crest... man, it was crazy... but after seeing some dubbing and decresta videos on youtube, i just use some titanium 3m straight scissors that i got from staples... these were the sharpest ones i could find... way sharper than the surgical ones, and they are titanium and light... i get great control... i just took pictures outside of thor, they're uploading right now...

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it stops growing after they get to breeding age... so i waited until i saw henry smashing the hens... lol...

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He said he plans to show the bird. It's a requirement for that particular breed.

To the OP-if you look at the comb of you first male you'll see a curved line on the side of the comb. That's called the dub line. Follow that line when you dub & you'll have the look you want on an OEGB. I don't have anyone hold the bird or the comb. I wrap the bird in a damp towel, lay him on a flat surface, hold the comb with one hand & cut with the other. It's OK to take your time with it. I've never withheld food & water but I don't think it will do any harm either way. I do use some Blood Stop Powder to help stop the bleeding.
Other than cutting too close on that first bird you did a good job especially for a first attempt.

this is the advice i was looking for...

HOORAH!!!...

so i can do it by myself... that's great news... like i said, my friend's hand was blocking my view... i will do it myself tonight then not tomorrow... and i heard about the dub line... i can't really see it on henry... but i'll try my best... maybe i'll draw it on him with a surgical marker...




well here is Thor all healed up...

oh, and i'm not going to show thor... even though he's gorgeous, i don't know what type he is, and when i got him, his legs were infested with mites... although they look 100% better, they still have messed up scales because of them...

 

[runamuck]

to help with bleeding vitiamun K injections couple of days before almost stops the bleeding