Duck having seizures or nightmares?

[Miss Lydia]

Thank you so much @Miss Lydia ! We do not turn the lights off at night, and its funny you say that because they don't really have a wake and sleep schedule because they are inside most of the time at this hour, and we keep the lights on all the time! We need to put them on a sleep schedule before we move them outside, ducks that are active at night attract predators. Its so weird because he hasn't done it today at all so far (knock on wood) it definitely happens when he's sleeping. I am opposed to them being grand mal seizures like that because unless your a human, the electrical impulses in the brain die down while you're asleep to the point (and especially in a duck) where rapid neuron firing revolves around heartbeat and blood pressure and other 'keep the body alive' functions. Ducks do not fire nearly the amount of neurons we do, so I assumed it had to be him being startled. Thank you again for your help, we will go find some nutritional yeast and niacin tomorrow and I will keep you updated!

Okay lights on all the time isn't good either it is actually interfering with their sleep wake cycle. So get a red heat lamp bulb 150 is high enough and use it it is soothing to poultry when young. Your getting things worked out so I am hoping your lil one will grow out of this quickly especially since he hasn't had one now in a day. Please keep us updated!!

We have to think how would we feel if we tried to sleep with lights on 24/7 I know I wouldn't like it. lol

@Muse

 

[Muse]

Okay lights on all the time isn't good either it is actually interfering with their sleep wake cycle. So get a red heat lamp bulb 150 is high enough and use it it is soothing to poultry when young. Your getting things worked out so I am hoping your lil one will grow out of this quickly especially since he hasn't had one now in a day. Please keep us updated!!

We have to think how would we feel if we tried to sleep with lights on 24/7 I know I wouldn't like it. lol

@Muse

Very true thank you, we are headed out today to get all the bulb and some supplies! Will keep updated, no seizures so far! @Miss Lydia

 

[Miss Lydia]

Very true thank you, we are headed out today to get all the bulb and some supplies! Will keep updated, no seizures so far! @Miss Lydia

Awesome!!!

 

[Miss Lydia]

One more thing i was thinking of to keep from startling, always come in the room with letting them hear you either by singing or just talking softly this can help keep them from getting startled too . Walking up on a brooder full of ducklings etc with out letting them know we are there is like a huge predator coming up on them. It's going to create a response which in the case of your lil one is seizure. Or having them running into the side of the brooder or trampling each other trying to get away.

 

[Vyctoria]

Or having them running into the side of the brooder or trampling each other trying to get away.

This is primarily what seemed to set my boy off when he had his seizures. It was always at night(they were in a brooder in the garage) when I went to check on them before bed. I'd turn on the light and then talk a lot to them as I walked to the brooder. They were awake and watching, but as soon as I approached it completely, the girls would run to the other side and he'd just flop over immediately. I sometimes wonder if the others getting startled just seemed to set him off.

It didn't make sense to me until I was working at the vets office and met one of the vet's dogs. They'd bring her in to groom her on occasion and almost everytime she'd have a seizure because of the excitement. That's when the vet explained to me that high stress or exitement like that can set an animal off if they're already prone to it. I found it rather interesting given my circumstances at the time.

 

[Muse]

One more thing i was thinking of to keep from startling, always come in the room with letting them hear you either by singing or just talking softly this can help keep them from getting startled too . Walking up on a brooder full of ducklings etc with out letting them know we are there is like a huge predator coming up on them.  It's going to create a response which in the case of your lil one is seizure.  Or having them running into the side of the brooder or trampling each other trying to get away. 

Okay that's really good advice, his pen mate, a female named Astrid is MUCH bigger than he is so that is quite the possibility! I also learned that they HATE loud machines like the washing machine, lawn mower and vacuum cleaner I am wondering if like you said a light or a loud noise could be contributing.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Okay that's really good advice, his pen mate, a female named Astrid is MUCH bigger than he is so that is quite the possibility! I also learned that they HATE loud machines like the washing machine, lawn mower and vacuum cleaner I am wondering if like you said a light or a loud noise could be contributing.

Probably so. Still seizure free today?

Ducks and poultry in general like quiet and peaceful existence I am pretty much the same way. We can't shield them from everything but we can be more aware of what may trigger flight response or a seizure response. Mine have been around the wood splitter for the last few weeks right outside where they have their pool first few days they stayed away but now they are use to it and it is loud. So it's takes time but ducks do like a calm place to live that is why we should always walk slowly when in with them and talk softy to ducklings to reassure them we mean them no harm. When my gander and drake are fighting I don't walk slow but everyone is use to me since all are adults but we get them to that place gradually. Never let any children chase a duckling or ducks their legs won't take it. Not that you would but these are just things to be aware of because that is the kind of things kids like to do.

Hopefully with your TLC your lil one will thrive and be as normal as your other lil one Astrid [cuter name] what is this lil one we're talking about name?

 

[Muse]

Probably so. Still seizure free today?

Ducks and poultry in general like quiet and peaceful existence I am pretty much the same way. We can't shield them from everything but we can be more aware of what may trigger flight response or a seizure response. Mine have been around the wood splitter for the last few weeks right outside where they have their pool first few days they stayed away but now they are use to it and it is loud. So it's takes time but ducks do like a calm place to live that is why we should always walk slowly when in with them and talk softy to ducklings to reassure them we mean them no harm. When my gander and drake are fighting I don't walk slow but everyone is use to me since all are adults but we get them to that place gradually. Never let any children chase a duckling or ducks their legs won't take it. Not that you would but these are just things to be aware of because that is the kind of things kids like to do.

Hopefully with your TLC your lil one will thrive and be as normal as your other lil one Astrid [cuter name] what is this lil one we're talking about name?

The one we are talking about is a Cayuga named Dupont, and he has been seizure free for over 48 hours, thanks so much for your advice! @Miss Lydia We have bought them a farm booster that comes with a bunch of different vitamins for poultry and cattle! Feed stores did not sell nutritional yeast (and we do not live by a place that does) and I can't seem to find liquid niacin anywhere that isn't flush free or in tablet form.

 

[Miss Lydia]

The one we are talking about is a Cayuga named Dupont, and he has been seizure free for over 48 hours, thanks so much for your advice! @Miss Lydia We have bought them a farm booster that comes with a bunch of different vitamins for poultry and cattle! Feed stores did not sell nutritional yeast (and we do not live by a place that does) and I can't seem to find liquid niacin anywhere that isn't flush free or in tablet form.

How much niacin in the farm booster? Now I remember Dupont what a pretty duckling

 

[Miss Lydia]

Most everything I get for my flock I have to order on line.

Try Amazon of Vita cost type in Niacinamide