Duck with botulism. HELP

[JNC]

Over the past few days my duck has been having droopy wing, and unable to walk. Today she could stand for a few seconds and fully flap her wings She does drop her head when she sleep but this doesn’t seem as much as a problem scice it only happens when she sleeps. I think @Isaac 0 can help. But if he can’t, can anyone else help?

 

[Isaac 0]

She obviously isn't in good condition, so this is what I would suggest you do.

Bring her inside, and set her in a spacious, towel-lined dog kennel located in a warm, quiet, stressful free spot in the house. I say towel-lined so you better monitor the color and consistency of her feces. Provided food and water, you can make a soupy mix out of the feed, or add either some electrolytes or Gatorade to her water for a little boost.

We'll want to let her rest for a little bit, then we can do a physical examination on her, to make sure all her legs are working/bending properly, there is no bruising, redness, or sign of Bumblefoot on her pads, etc. Here is a link on how to do a physical examination.

https://www.merckvetmanual.com/exot...ltry/physical-examination-of-backyard-poultry

If you see something take a picture. Stops feeding her treats, no greens, and post a picture of her poop later.

As far as your concern about Botulism. If your fairly certain she has it, two things need to be focused on, providing hydration, and administering some type of antidote/cathartic. With Botulism using activated charcoal would be good, do you have any on hand?

Is she drinking and eating well?

 

[JNC]

She obviously isn't in good condition, so this is what I would suggest you do.

Bring her inside, and set her in a spacious, towel-lined dog kennel located in a warm, quiet, stressful free spot in the house. I say towel-lined so you better monitor the color and consistency of her feces. Provided food and water, you can make a soupy mix out of the feed, or add either some electrolytes or Gatorade to her water for a little boost.

We'll want to let her rest for a little bit, then we can do a physical examination on her, to make sure all her legs are working/bending properly, there is no bruising, redness, or sign of Bumblefoot on her pads, etc. Here is a link on how to do a physical examination.

https://www.merckvetmanual.com/exot...ltry/physical-examination-of-backyard-poultry

If you see something take a picture. Stops feeding her treats, no greens, and post a picture of her poop later.

As far as your concern about Botulism. If your fairly certain she has it, two things need to be focused on, providing hydration, and administering some type of antidote/cathartic. With Botulism using activated charcoal would be good, do you have any on hand?

Is she drinking and eating well?

She refuses to eat her regular food, I made it soupy and offered it to her but she would just look at it. I then showed her a tomato and started yanking on it like she would normally do with her treats. I put it in the soup and she was going for it but as soon as she tasted the food she refused to eat the tomato. then i put some soupy food in my hand and she just picked at it. I do have activated chorcoal but it’s for teeth whitening. I have epsom salt, and I have her 1.5tsp of epsom salt with 1/2 cup of warm water. She drank about 3/8 of the water when i put tomatoes inside of it. but then she stopped. I tried putting some in a syrange (just a syrange without a hook) and slowly putting it in her mouth (not throat since I have never had experience with syringing) Is there other ways I can get her to drink it? How much of this should i give her? Instead Of using warm water can I use warm electrolyte water? She is still drinking but not really eating unless they are tomatoes, and gets full on them quickly, she will eat about a tomato when i offer and then i get more and she doesn’t want any. I saw someone give their ducks steamed oats. Do I give that to her? Is there a certain receipe for steamed oat for ducks? She already stood up today 3 times today to move places and she stretched her wings one of the times she stood. She does struggle a lot with balance. Her head does fall when sleeping but it’s up when she’s awake. Sorry for the rambalings.

Now she is stretching her wing like this, she already did this twice- I think she’s just trying to scoot herself forward

 

[JNC]

She obviously isn't in good condition, so this is what I would suggest you do.

Bring her inside, and set her in a spacious, towel-lined dog kennel located in a warm, quiet, stressful free spot in the house. I say towel-lined so you better monitor the color and consistency of her feces. Provided food and water, you can make a soupy mix out of the feed, or add either some electrolytes or Gatorade to her water for a little boost.

We'll want to let her rest for a little bit, then we can do a physical examination on her, to make sure all her legs are working/bending properly, there is no bruising, redness, or sign of Bumblefoot on her pads, etc. Here is a link on how to do a physical examination.

https://www.merckvetmanual.com/exot...ltry/physical-examination-of-backyard-poultry

If you see something take a picture. Stops feeding her treats, no greens, and post a picture of her poop later.

As far as your concern about Botulism. If your fairly certain she has it, two things need to be focused on, providing hydration, and administering some type of antidote/cathartic. With Botulism using activated charcoal would be good, do you have any on hand?

Is she drinking and eating well?

Is it okay if i put her in a kiddie pool to get her moving?

 

[Isaac 0]

Don't give her any more Epsom salts. While it does help "flush" her body, its a laxative and thus is going to cause slight to moderate dehydration which is what we're ultimately trying to prevent here. We don't really know if she suffering from toxin ingestion, but activated charcoal would be a better substitute for this. Instead of flushing the toxins out of her body, activated charcoal works by binding with the toxins preventing their abortion. This would be a safer alternative and we wouldn't be risking her hydration levels.

If you want to pick up some plain capsules go right ahead, and I can give you a dosage.

I would not put her in any water as of now.

Since she's not eating and drinking much she really needs to be tube-fed. I would HIGHLY suggest getting the supplies to perform this.

You can find all the info you need in these threads.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ng-guide-pictures-under-construction.1064392/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/tube-feeding-q-and-a.1215032/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/tube-feeding-ducks-updated-5-7-2020.1211994/

 

[JNC]

Don't give her any more Epsom salts. While it does help "flush" her body, its a laxative and thus is going to cause slight to moderate dehydration which is what we're ultimately trying to prevent here. We don't really know if she suffering from toxin ingestion, but activated charcoal would be a better substitute for this. Instead of flushing the toxins out of her body, activated charcoal works by binding with the toxins preventing their abortion. This would be a safer alternative and we wouldn't be risking her hydration levels.

If you want to pick up some plain capsules go right ahead, and I can give you a dosage.

I would not put her in any water as of now.

Since she's not eating and drinking much she really needs to be tube-fed. I would HIGHLY suggest getting the supplies to perform this.

You can find all the info you need in these threads.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ng-guide-pictures-under-construction.1064392/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/tube-feeding-q-and-a.1215032/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/tube-feeding-ducks-updated-5-7-2020.1211994/

They say to check their crop- I am new to ducks and I have no idea what this is. They also say to check dehydration by pinching her skin. What part of skin do i pinch? If she Is dehydrated do I give her water on tubing to? Are the feeding tubes reusable or one use only?

 

[Isaac 0]

The tubes can be used repeatedly.

Go ahead and get her weight down now, and report back here. Do you get any tubes yet?

 

[JNC]

The tubes can be used repeatedly.

Go ahead and get her weight down now, and report back here. Do you get any tubes yet?

Unfortunately no, I can’t find where they sell them. Do you know where? I have syringe where i put the warm food in the squirt a little into her mouth and allow her to swallow. It kinda helps because she thinks it’s a toy and bites the tip of it. However it gets everywhere and sometimes the syrange gets clogged it gets clogged for some reason. I need to buy the tube ASAP however I don’t know if i should tube feed her if she is still drinking water but not eating. Will tube feeding her fill her up with too much water since she is still drinking? I know she can eat and drink herself but she just isn’t hungry for the food. I will see if I can get a tube tonight. Also, I’m pretty sure she has a broken leg because when i was wrapping it I could feel a bone sticking out. Is it better for her not to walk? Will ice on the foot help? Sorry for so many questions and the ramblings.

Her poor foot seems to be so swollen compared to her other foot. Please help

 

[Isaac 0]

Her leg looks like its losing blood circulation, and if you felt a broke she really needs to see a vet. Can you take her to this place?

https://arborviewah.com/

 

[Isaac 0]

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