Dumbest Things People Have Said About Your Chickens/Eggs/Meat - Part 2 : Chicken Boogaloo.

[Ravynscroft]

Even worse, broody duck poop! I have slipped and nearly fallen in that.

Oh, yes!! My feet are quite familiar with broody duck poop... have had several duck broodys, several right now, and more falling victim each day!

*Never, EVER ask for a broody... it's the most virulent contagious disease there is...*

 

[ShrekDawg]

My doctor and his wife had about 50 chickens and she used the eggs to feed the poor in their area. One day, he came home from work to find his wife in tears because the neighbor's dog was jumping the fence, catching a chicken, jump back over, kill the chicken just for sport, and repeat until it had killed over a dozen birds. My doctor got his shotgun, then waited for the dog to return and go after another chicken. He shot the dog. I don't advocate it, but sometimes ....

Wow thats sad abut the chickns. :/ butbsee, in that case i think he did what he had to and i mean like i said, if it was actively attacking my animals or someone else's then I'd be more okay with it. I was more meaning just shooting an animal for appearing on the property without doing anything wrong. Or like the people that shoot people too or threaten. Not that any of you do that and if you do well then I'm sorry and you do you, but it's way too easy to get trigger happy was my point. I wouldn't shoot something for no reason.

I understand that Dr. My Dad was a man who helped clean up the after math of pearl harbor
he is not allow for useless killing if you killed there had to be valid reason ie feed the family.
I was the youngest child and admittedly was rather spoiled always being give the animals to 
mother one being a very scared German shepard dog.. that dog started running with others
they killed a neighbors sheep this was Washington state farm country 1969-1970 I was about 10
Daddy gave his rifle I was instructed to take my dog to the woods shoot him and bury him.
I cried, whine and cajoled but took the rifle and did as I was told...

When I was 9, my dad shot the neighbor dog, a chow-chow that killed 50 rabbits and most of the chickens. He had warned the neighbor once, and said he would kill it if it came again. He did. My little sister and I cried over our chickens and rabbits for a long time. My dad did not like seeing his little girls cry, so all dogs that came into the yard after chickens got shot.

My soon to be evicted neighbors had 2 dogs locked up in a 10x10 kennel their whole lives... last year they both got out and ripped through 14ga welded wire pen and slaughtered 13 of my grow outs before we could get to them... they ran home fast and I had to put down 3 more birds that were beyond help... the neighbors did nothing... the next night it happened again during a severe thunderstorm... 31 slaughtered... no survivors... called the sheriff, said our only recourse was to sue them... we couldn't afford that, plus they are relatives by marriage and it had already caused a bad family dispute so we left it at that... but the sheriff did make a point to tell me that I have every right to protect my property by whatever means necessary... I made it clear to our neighbors that if either dog crossed our property line again, it would not walk back...

Last month we had an afternoon thunderstorm suddenly blow in fast and hard... I barely got our ducks into their pen and didn't get the juvie bantams secured but they dived for cover so I left them... went inside and was at my kitchen sink when I saw a dog ripping apart one of my juvies... grabbed the 22 rifle, stuck 1 bullet in and fired one shot... it took 5 steps and dropped, double lung shot... it was one of the 2 from the last year...

Lesson of this story, if it's a pet then the owners will take responsibility for its actions as they should and also do whatever they can to prevent it from happening again... if they don't then it is just a loose dangerous animal as it has no fear of man like a wild animal usually has... and you never know what you're capable of until you are in that situation...

Same response to all these too although yes if something was attacking i might shoot it but not for being there. And yeah that's true, people should keep pets contained and i know we keep ours contained but some people don't care or feel they should be free to roam. I guess in that case though it's more their own fault cause if you don't shoot them someone else will or they will wind up hit by a car, diseased, injured, whatever. I hate the ones that say they care or get mad for shooting it but then they let it roam or never take it to the vet or whatever. I heard of this dog once, a puppy, that, got loose a lot, even hit by a car, and they never took it to the vet, the neighbor finally did after it suffering for a week or two, they never paid them back or even knew it was missing. they just left it outside, it lived out there. I think they said they could have it but i might be confusing it with another story cause thats happened too, i think it was another dog, someone got confronted about the conditions and they were just like here take him. That's sad to me. Why even have a dog if you don't care about it, don't even visit it outside or know when it's missing or hurt, etc.?? And before anyone says anything, yes I can understand not being able to afford or not wanting to pay to fix the dog and I can also, in certain situations and breeds, etc., understand outside dogs, provided you take care of them (i.e. food, water, shelter, exercise/attention/work, even if it's a pristine chain spot or a kennel) but the one thing I can not stand is neglecting your responsibility as an animal owner. If you do not want the animal then either DONT GET IT (in one case someones puppy died and they just got a new one but then neglected that one too) or maybe give it away, take it to a shelter. Maybe not Craigslist, it could be tortured. And they have programs now and pet insurance to help people afford vet care or drop it off at the shelter and they'll fix it or put it down probably. Or if you really have to and you're allowed to where are then yes, fine, shoot the animal. But like that case I mentioned above, the first puppy, of leaving the puppy with a broken leg and other injuries just running around again after being hit for all that time sickens me. Either suck it up and pay the vet bills or shoot it. Terrible. Anyway this isnt related to any of you or even the topic at hand, just got on a rant, sorry but if an animal attacked or got hurt i would probably try to train it or take it to the vet if it was mine but otherwise i think i might be willing to shoot. Although that said, obviously you guys turned out fine but i don't think i would make my kids shoot their pet dog, no matter what he did. Either I'd do it or I'd give him away or train him if possible

 

[7 Biddies]

I have a friend who cannot eat brown shelled eggs. She says she can only eat eggs with white shells. ??? Go figure.

She "can't" or won't? Big difference. Veerrry big difference. (Hint: "won't" implies willfulness)

 

[pennyJo1960]

@KDOGG331 Terrible. Anyway this isnt related to any of you or even the topic at hand, just got on a rant, sorry but if an animal attacked or got hurt i would probably try to train it or take it to the vet if it was mine but otherwise i think i might be willing to shoot. Although that said, obviously you guys turned out fine but i don't think i would make my kids shoot their pet dog, no matter what he did. Either I'd do it or I'd give him away or train him if possible.


I do not believe that did bad things to me as an adult just the opposite my dogs since
have been loved, cared for and contained

 

[7 Biddies]

I am 54, I think. Husband is 62, and way more preserved than me. More stamina, strength, time manager. When I am in 60s I think I will go to ER cause I slipped in chicken poop.

lol

Not funny! I've busted both ankles this year, 1st) by slipping on a rain drenched hill (April 2015) and 2nd) falling all the way down a flight of stairs in fuzzy, slippery slippers (Jan. 5, 2016). Ended up in the ER both times, had surgery and a rehab hospital stay both times, too. They put a bright yellow wrist band on me that said, "FALL RISK". My so-called friends died laughing: "We could've told them that! They just had to ask." Ha-ha, very funny. It is to laugh.

PS. Be careful of the chicken poop. It stinks when you fall in it.

 

[Kiki]

Not funny! I've busted both ankles this year, 1st) by slipping on a rain drenched hill (April 2015) and 2nd) falling all the way down a flight of stairs in fuzzy, slippery slippers (Jan. 5, 2016). Ended up in the ER both times, had surgery and a rehab hospital stay both times, too. They put a bright yellow wrist band on me that said, "FALL RISK". My so-called friends died laughing: "We could've told them that! They just had to ask." Ha-ha, very funny. It is to laugh.

PS. Be careful of the chicken poop. It stinks when you fall in it.

Wow....Im guessing you got really lucky with ONLY messing up your ankle on that second fall.

 

[7 Biddies]

Wow....Im guessing you got really lucky with ONLY messing up your ankle on that second fall.

Very lucky, indeed. Thanks for reminding me ... It's too easy to forget how bad it could've been. Count my blessings.

 

[cutiechook1]

Amen

 

[chickendreams24]

I agree!!!  No offense here....every word the truth. 

The guy intentionally hit animals trying to cross the road? Yeah, I think I'd want to do what you did too.

I'm always hoping those people who deliberately drive over turtles will get a punctured tire for their efforts.  Such a harmless animal there never was, especially if a box turtle.  Snapping turtles, on the other hand, I'm not a big fan of....they can do a lot of destruction and cost a lot of money in a stocked farm pond.  But, I'd still not run over one. 

I intentionally try to miss hitting roadkill...
The occasional bird flying into the car happens. But going out of your way to intentionally do harm to another living creature, and enjoying it? Disgusting. Sick. Not right in the head.
I enjoy the results of a day of processing animals for food (good, healthy food), but I never enjoy the act of taking life.

The guy does hunt elk and deer for food, not trophy. I have no idea why he is so repulsed by the idea of eating rabbit.

I love rabbit meat. That said, there is another side to this story as I am seeing it. 

Rabbits are not good to have around if you are a farmer. The higher your rabbit population the higher the Coyote population. Coyotes as we all know, can decimate a chicken flock, and many around us who raise sheep tell me nightmare stories about 'yotes dragging off and brutally killing lambs with the poor mothers trying to do everything she can to save her baby.

I raise fruit and have a small garden every year and count on our dogs to keep the rabbit population down. They hunt them regularly and yes, they eat their prey. The sound is not pretty but if they didn't keep the population under control for me, yes I would be forced to shoot and not always eat the rabbit that is doing the damage to my orchard or fruit crop if they were not on the job. 

Even in the winter rabbits will chew the bark off of fruit trees, successfully ringing it and killing the tree. The solution? Shoot the rabbit.

So you see, get rid of the rabbits, you get rid of the problem. Rabbits are not discriminatory as to what they eat. They can destroy a garden overnight along with an orchard full of new fruit trees that has cost you almost a thousand dollars to plant.

That being said, there are 'varmints' around that we dispatch regularly for coming close to the house and or chicken coop and no, we do not eat raccoon, (although some do), skunk, possum or coyotes that become nuisance animals.

Last week I was forced to shoot a squirrel that had I caught raiding my Blue Birds nesting boxes. It did that after coming up on our porch and chewing on our solid oak stairs, I can get a picture of the damage it did to our stairs. No, I do not know why it chewed on the steps. It has a whole forest full of hardwood to choose from, yet it chose our steps to sharpen it's teeth on.

I do not like squirrel meat. Nor did I have the time to butcher the animal for our dogs. It was given a respectful funeral but the damage was done to my Blue Birds. I don't think they re-nested after the attack.

Nobody should should shoot any animal for fun. We do not. But there is a flip side to every story. Maybe the man who shot the rabbits for target practice had been overran with rabbits and was taking care of the problem.

Trust me, we were over ran with rabbits this spring to the point that our dogs couldn't keep up with them. I'm expecting the coyotes to be bad this winter and my chicken's safety come first over the life of any 'yote.

I'll probably get flamed for admitting that yes, we kill nuisance animals and do not eat them, but I want folks to see things from all angles.

Then he is breaking the law, pure and simple. The immorality of shooting any animal for target practice aside, the man is a criminal if he is doing this just for sport or 'target' practice and shooting the animal out of season.

I live in the middle of an Amish community. For the most part they are good neighbors but they are 'strange' in the way they look at land stewardship. Our wild turkey population is growing around us. I love wild turkeys and we have set down a strict law that nobody is allowed to hunt them on our property. Recently talking to a neighbor we commented about the 50 or so turkeys that we had in our front yard one morning. The neighbor told us that yes, they were making a comeback mainly because the game warden had caught up with the Amish. Seems as though they were going out at night and spotlighting the birds as they roosted in the trees. Bang. Turkey for dinner. The Game Warden had found a total of 30 birds in an Amish freezer.

You can either hope that the game warden catches up with the man with a zest for bunny murder or if you know when and where he is hunting, maybe drop a word in the local game wardens ear. Either way, people like  him usually get caught.

But in my 63 years on this planet, if nothing else I have learned that people can be very strange. We knew a couple that lived in a deep rural area that are always having cats dumped on them. They shoot them with a .22. It still bothers me to this day. I'm sitting here with my fat 9 year old tabby cat at my side and 4 more spoiled felines lounging around the house. We have 5 dogs and 31 chickens. I guess that qualifies us as animal lovers. And while I am not overly fond of wild rabbits, one of the reasons I won't raise tame ones is because I know I would never be able to butcher and eat one. They are too much like pets.

Wild ones on the other hand are delicious when they are pre-fried and slow cooked in a crockpot.

I dont think i could shoot a dog, especially if i knew it was owned by somebody. I can understand protecting your property and everything but I'd just catch it and return it. I'd like to think I'd give it 3 chances and if it's back a third time I'd shoot it but realistically I'd probably just catch it as many times as necessary. I don't know, just knowing it's someone's pet I couldn't do it and it seems mean to me to just shoot it for showing up a second time. Speaking of which, I think that if it was actively going after my animals then I would maybe be able to shoot it or at least give a warning shot (or hopefully I would have LGDs) but for just appearing on the property I don't think I'd shoot it, could have gotten lost or something or maybe was chasing a deer, coyote, etc. And not necessarily the chickens. But I can understand why some people do things certain ways but just for me I couldn't and I'd probably have the owner pick i up or take it to a shelter. Cats I'd probably let stay as long as they weren't harming anything but they'd have to work to earn their keep, I either wouldn't feed them at all or just have a bowl of dry food. Although I suppose if I was constantly having animals dumped onto my property and the numbers were getting too high then I would probably take some to the shelter, sell on Craigslist, or maaaaayyybeeeee shoot as a last resort. And also I don't mean this as starting an argument but I'm curious how spaying and neutering the cats would increase the population? I can see how feeding them would attract more but fixing them? Unless maybe being fixed makes them less territorial so they allow more males into their territory and don't kill kittens, etc. But even then they can't nake more babies so sirely it helps at least a little? But maybe attracts more cats from other areas

I understand that Dr. My Dad was a man who helped clean up the after math of pearl harbor
he is not allow for useless killing if you killed there had to be valid reason ie feed the family.
I was the youngest child and admittedly was rather spoiled always being give the animals to 
mother one being a very scared German shepard dog.. that dog started running with others
they killed a neighbors sheep this was Washington state farm country 1969-1970 I was about 10
Daddy gave his rifle I was instructed to take my dog to the woods shoot him and bury him.
I cried, whine and cajoled but took the rifle and did as I was told...

Wow you all have been busy! Okay so I'm going to try to cover all the major topics and figure out what's going on. If I offend anyone with any of these thoughts I apologize I look at you all with the utmost respect and I totally understand we are all individuals.

To start I'm glad you all agree about the jerk that hit the turtles and other animals on purpose. I think any unnecessary cruelty is just stupid and awful.

I understand that wildlife can be destructive and needs to be managed sometimes. That being said except for coon and coyote numbers around us the ecosystem is pretty well balanced. I believe that wild animals can be dangerous just like take ones and I think that if they lose their inherit fear of people then they need to be shot or out down. We have had problems with coons and possums in this way and won't hesitate to shoot them if needed. My mother and grandmother both have small dogs and the have both had near misses with being attacked by coons or possums.

Now about the dog thing I can't imagine being forced to shoot my dog and I think 10 is too young to be expected to do that. I do agree with sometimes having to put down animals that could be a danger to livestock or people. That being said I do think they should be given a chance if at all possible to be trained out of it. However if a dog killed 50 of my chickens I may use deadly force. When I was a child we shot a neighbor's dog with rubber bullets that was killing chickens and it never came back, so I think there are other things to try.

I can say that my dog got attacked by the neighbors dogs when she was six months old(years ago now) and he had her pinned. I fully intended to beat him with a cinder block to make him let go, but she got away and he was tied so I didn't have to. (To clarify yes my dog was in their yard after the wind blew our gate open)

Now about feral or barn cats and even dogs. We do have way way too many of them I believe a lot of this is due to people not fixing their animals. In Europe I believe it is required unless you have specific permits that all your animals are fixed. I do think something similar would be a possible solution to our problem. Now I also believe that people who just dump animals should be flogged, but I think that TNR is a good and workable option if more places implement it. I also believe that more places should offer low cost barn cat/feral cat spays/neuters with ear tipping to mark the fixed cats.

As a child we lived down the road from a small creek and one day we walked down to the creek and found a wet box that had broken open in the water, inside was a drowned cat. I was 5-6 and was horrified so given no other option I believe that a bullet is a kinder death but why not seak out a place that could use and would care for a cat. Some places/shelters now have programs where they place ferals/TNR cats in places where they need extra help with rodents such as orchards and vineyards. They help keep rabbits, squirrels, and even birds in check. In this way these otherwise unwanted cats get fixed and have a purpose, they aren't killed and they can help protect a crop, yet they aren't breeding.

Yet again throwing another side and view into this post. I have never myself killed anything purposefully, except the odd bug or spider, but since May we have lost 15+ chickens to predator(s). The main culprit is a fox and we have also been having some suspicions that a coyote could also be to blame. Our neighbor has informed us there is a wokf in the area, something we already knew but hadn't considered. We are waiting for a shot at the fox and whatever else it may be. Obviously if it is the wolf we will be in touch with the DNR. My point is that I am now ready to shoot whatever it is and I don't care anymore. We are losing up to three birds a day and it's been relentless. We are afraid to free range the flock anymore. Last week alone we lost 5 birds to the predator(s). We all have a breaking point.

All we can do is try our best. Some people would say I'm cruel for wanting to kill this fox and I know it isn't being malicious but it isn't hunting anything anymore except our birds. It has no fear at all I've stood 8 feet from it screaming and it ignored me. If it has kits it will teach them that chickens are food to, that's what has happened with the coons at my grandparents' too. They don't hunt for anything anymore just eat the food for the barn cats after they chase them away.

 

[Beekissed]

You are now learning how life experiences will change your decisions on what you will kill or will not kill to defend your land or the animals upon it...I wish more could have their eyes opened to it. No one likes to kill a cat or a dog, it's a sinking feeling, really, to have to do so. But experience has taught me that the local authorities will not respond, nor do all areas of the world have animal control, nor do the local shelters want to take in any more strays...they will threaten that they will "just have to euthanize it" if you bring it in. Why drive 20 mi.~if you can catch the animal at all~merely to have them kill it? It's expedient and humane to just kill it quickly and remove the problem.

Not everyone's life has been the same, some have been at this game a lot longer and under different circumstances, so you rightly reason that no one knows what they will do in defense of home and food supplies if they've never really been faced with such a thing without any help on the horizon. It's a case of virtue not tempted is virtue untried.

I always chuckle when someone starts out a statement "I'd NEVER....." when they've never been faced with such a thing over and over and over in their lives. That's an easy and high horse to be speaking from.