Dumbest Things People Have Said About Your Chickens/Eggs/Meat

[Rich1980]

My vegetarian friend is convinced only to eat vegetarian diet eggs.  I have no idea why, she won't even eat her own chicken's eggs! 

I remember watching my 3 Light Brahma Bantams tearing apart a rat.  The worst part was, until they set him down and started scratching he was still alive.

I wrote an essay in my 8th grade English class about all the hype on egg cartons.  My teacher, a chicken lover, loved it.

 

Eggs are not vegetables even if the chicken is feed a vegetarian diet. Your friend is not a vegetarian

 

[Rich1980]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand the pink is the pesticide that then gets into the corn so they don't have to keep treating it with sprays and stuff. The bugs eat the corn, then die. Scary! I know I've heard it talked about before, but I don't know 100% for sure it was the corn they were referring to or if that was just my brain making those connections after seeing the pink stuff you mentioned.

Can you even buy corn to plant without it? It seems like that's all our feed store carries, but it might just be b/c that's what's in the big plastic bulk bags. The smaller paper ones might have more options?

You're correct the pink is a pesticide called neonicotiniod it becomes a part of the entire plant and even kills the bees that pollinate them. This is a big part of what is killing our honey bees. Thankfully some countries are getting smart and banning the use of these chemicals

 

[Beekissed]

Apparently there are different types of vegetarianism and one is such that you can eat dairy and eggs, just not flesh of animals/fish, etc. Veganism is the one where they do not consume eggs or any other by-product of animals.

 

[Kusanar]

Apparently there are different types of vegetarianism and one is such that you can eat dairy and eggs, just not flesh of animals/fish, etc. Veganism is the one where they do not consume eggs or any other by-product of animals.

Yep, plus there are some people that have a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle because of animal welfare, well, if you have a happy pet chicken, what is more respectful to the chicken? Eating the egg she laid and put a good amount of her energy into, or throwing it away? I suppose you could just cook all of her eggs and give them back to her, but other than that, I say eat them! Also, like the road kill deer dad brought home years ago, someone hit her in the head and broke her neck, she was still steaming when he saw her, so home he brought her and we processed her and put her in the freezer, she died anyway, through no fault of our own, but she would have just rotted if she had been left, at least in our freezer her death had some meaning.

I'm not a vegetarian or vegan, but I can see where they are coming from with factory farmed meat, eggs, and dairy, but if you have a pet that just happens to produce food on a daily basis, might as well eat it...

 

[CrazyTalk]

You're correct the pink is a pesticide called neonicotiniod it becomes a part of the entire plant and even kills the bees that pollinate them. This is a big part of what is killing our honey bees. Thankfully some countries are getting smart and banning the use of these chemicals

This is exactly what I'm talking about - this thread is more misinformation than anything else.

The pink on seeds is infact usually an anti-fungal. Occasionally imidacloprid is used in areas with certain bug issues, but it's not real common. It doesn't become part of the plant, it keeps the seed from being eaten by weevils and such.

Treated seeds are not killing bees. The imidacloprid ends up underground where it breaks down. Imidacloprid as a spray(like Bayer 3 in 1) does cause some problems, but that's not what we're talking about here.


This also has absolutely nothing to do with GMOs, despite the previous poster's attempt to conflate the two.



PS - If your friend eats eggs - shes not a vegan. Her reasons don't matter. If you eat deer, you're not a vegetarian. The words classify specific diets, and have nothing to do with animal welfare. She can say she eats "cruelty free" or something like that.

 

[duluthralphie]

You're correct the pink is a pesticide called neonicotiniod it becomes a part of the entire plant and even kills the bees that pollinate them. This is a big part of what is killing our honey bees. Thankfully some countries are getting smart and banning the use of these chemicals

Really?

Do you have reference or studies to this effect?

I have a hard time believing a small amount of insecticide/ anti-fungal coating a seed which is around 1 sq cm in size is going to stay on the seed and into the plant long enough to kill bees. Considering the seed is put in the ground and rain/water is required to grow the plant for 2 months before it even tassels. Further I have never in my 60 years experience with corn seen bees pollinate it. Corn is pollinated more by wind than anything else.

When was the last time you saw a honey bee on a corn tassel?

 

[duluthralphie]

This is exactly what I'm talking about - this thread is more misinformation than anything else.

The pink on seeds is infact usually an anti-fungal. Occasionally imidacloprid is used in areas with certain bug issues, but it's not real common. It doesn't become part of the plant, it keeps the seed from being eaten by weevils and such.

Treated seeds are not killing bees. The imidacloprid ends up underground where it breaks down. Imidacloprid as a spray(like Bayer 3 in 1) does cause some problems, but that's not what we're talking about here.


This also has absolutely nothing to do with GMOs, despite the previous poster's attempt to conflate the two.



PS - If your friend eats eggs - shes not a vegan. Her reasons don't matter. If you eat deer, you're not a vegetarian. The words classify specific diets, and have nothing to do with animal welfare. She can say she eats "cruelty free" or something like that.

Heaven help us! We agree on something!

 

[Beekissed]

Really?

Do you have reference or studies to this effect?

I have a hard time believing a small amount of insecticide/ anti-fungal coating a seed which is around 1 sq cm in size is going to stay on the seed and into the plant long enough to kill bees. Considering the seed is put in the ground and rain/water is required to grow the plant for 2 months before it even tassels. Further I have never in my 60 years experience with corn seen bees pollinate it. Corn is pollinated more by wind than anything else.

When was the last time you saw a honey bee on a corn tassel?

Here ya go.....

I've seen it a good plenty and also those little bumble bee types of bees.

Maybe your corn killed all your honeybees and that's why you don't see them?

 

[duluthralphie]

Here is a link to corn pollination, the basics of it, Bees are not mentioned., I believe this is from the Ohio Dept of ag.

Anyone can make a youtube and say anything in it, It does not add to this discussion, IMHO.

Honeybees and bumble bees are 2 separate species. There are plants that require bumblebees and plants that require honeybees. While there may well be a bee in a corn field it is not there to pollinate or gather pollen from the corn. More than likely it is there for a weed or voluntary crop within the corn.

I am not saying a pesticide sprayed on the corn will not kill bees, it will. Any pollen a bee gets from corn is incidental.

BTW Did I say I do not see bees here? I said they do not pollinate corn. The bee would have to fly from the tassel to the silk on the young ear to pollinate it. They is no reason for the bee to go to the silk.

 

[Blooie]

Really?

Do you have reference or studies to this effect?

I have a hard time believing a small amount of insecticide/ anti-fungal coating a seed which is around 1 sq cm in size is going to stay on the seed and into the plant long enough to kill bees. Considering the seed is put in the ground and rain/water is required to grow the plant for 2 months before it even tassels. Further I have never in my 60 years experience with corn seen bees pollinate it. Corn is pollinated more by wind than anything else.

When was the last time you saw a honey bee on a corn tassel?

Well, I grew up in Eastern South Dakota and I can tell you for sure that yes, I have seen bees ON corn tassels, during that short period when the tassels are open. When we'd have to go out and de-tassel corn, (not a fun job when it's 100 degrees and the humidity is 80%) they acted like we were just a minor inconvenience - just hoisted themselves off that plant and went to another. Could be that the bees didn't do their research and find out that they weren't supposed to be there.

You are correct, though, wind - and rain - are the big pollinators. Most folks don't think about how a soft rain takes a little pollen with it and deposits it on the silk.

As far as how long the fungicide stays on the seed, again drawing on my experience in one of the corn growing capitals of the country, after that corn plant starts growing good the seed no longer exists - it's gone. Fffftttttt - all gone. The fungicide simply protects the seed from attacks of fungus while the seed is in the warm, damp earth. It has disappeared right along with the seed as the plant grows. No seed left, no fungicide.