If you are looking for pigeons I suggest you find one of the forum threads here on BYC that are pigeon enthusiast. WE are basically chickens.if anyone comes across a blue banded, black, with brown or red ashing, some feather legging (male), tumbler pigeon, please let me know at least, as it went missing aftef getting away when neighbor children spooked it, and has been mia even with letting my birm and flights out to hopefully bring back to its mate. email/pm please as message thread bord mail not working still on new BYC.