Eastern Tennessee Thread

[tennesseeckn]

I don't know about the gene names or anything, but I know how it works. If you breed self blue to self blue, you get self blue. With Andalusian blue, when you breed blue to blue, you get blue, black, and splash.

I LOVE the chicken calculator. Here's what Barnqueen should get with her F1's using the splash wheaten x white:





This is what she should get if she uses the splash wheaten x the blue:



And that's if they're all genetically perfect. White is supposed to hide some crazy stuff, though, so it'll be cool to see what she gets.

 

[SacredSax]

Hi, saw your post, any Brahmas?

 

[Talbott Poultry]

I don't know about the gene names or anything, but I know how it works. If you breed self blue to self blue, you get self blue. With Andalusian blue, when you breed blue to blue, you get blue, black, and splash.

I LOVE the chicken calculator. Here's what Barnqueen should get with her F1's using the splash wheaten x white:





This is what she should get if she uses the splash wheaten x the blue:



And that's if they're all genetically perfect. White is supposed to hide some crazy stuff, though, so it'll be cool to see what she gets.

UGGHHH.

Now I know I am lost.

 

[tennesseeckn]

UGGHHH.

Now I know I am lost.

I'll bet you're trying to understand it, right? I just look at the pretty pictures!!! I have no idea what all the Eb+ stuff means. I just pick the parents from the pictures on top and then look at the baby pictures down the side. I do know that genotype is their genetic makeup and phenotype is what they look like.

 

[TNBarnQueen]

I'll bet you're trying to understand it, right? I just look at the pretty pictures!!! I have no idea what all the Eb+ stuff means. I just pick the parents from the pictures on top and then look at the baby pictures down the side. I do know that genotype is their genetic makeup and phenotype is what they look like.

What you have to look for are modifiers and recessive genes. Such as if I have a chick from a red hen and a black roo....you could possibly even have a recessive silver gene...I found that out with my foal this year...he was silver but there was no silver in his lineage until 5 generations behind him. The reason is the silver was a recessive gene staying dormant until it just decides to pop up. Black is a very strong gene in any breed. There is suppose to be an anomaly where every 7 years many breeds of anything experience a huge amount of black results.
I will try to find the 2 web sites that a friend sent me that really dummy downs the genetic breeding but you still have to adhere to the AA..EE...Aa..Ee genetic points. The large letter represents a dominate gene...the small letter represents a recessive gene.
@AJ...if you look at the pic of my hen...she is blue....self blue would be Goliath. Most call it lavender but the technically inclined people want to recognize it as self blue.

 

[bairo]

Well I guess this is where I jump in, saw you were a bit east of Knoxville, we are in Rogersville, so thought I would wave.

 

[bairo]

I will get the info to you on the NPIP...I have got to call and have them come out to do mine. It is $35 unless they went up for 2013

@tennesseeckn.....I guess I do need to slow down and actually read what I type...I am sooooo embarrassed.

I was on an Ameraucana thread where I posted pics. A woman told me that I do not have Ameraucanas because they are tufted...they should only have beards and muffs....I am really confused now. So...is all the facial feathers muffs?? I may need to find a site that list what part of the chicken is what!

If they are truly "tufted" it usually means a f1 or f2 Araucana cross. Still an EE though

 

[bairo]

OK...got the beard part right now....I went back and someone had posted that Satan is actually a splash wheaten. She posted a pic of her blue wheatens and I swear I cannot tell a lot of difference. Wait...looking at the chest I can kinda see why they may be saying splash.



And said this one is blue instead of self blue,



This is my white who is not does not have the double muff..not a good pic..she is camera shy yet she follows around on my heels. She is my baby doll! I am really curious what I will get with her and Satan. (Named so because every time I touch him he grabs my finger and does not let go. Hurst like the dickens!..I think Bario spoiled him!!)

yep..he is a mans bird for sure, LOL
All he ever did to me was tuck his beak inside my hand and "coo" he must not like your hands, LOL

 

[littlechicklet]

Hey Strangers!

Sorry I've been out of the loop. Welcome to all the newcomers.

The following is about testing for ILT. So, if you aren't interested, you can start skimming now.

I found a company online that will accept samples sent to them in the mail. I was really excited until I learned that it's $85 per test and that you really have to test three times before you can really say they're clean. Before I even considered it, I called my vet to get his take. He told me that all they would test for was to determine if the bird had ILT antibodies, since clearly none of them are sick at the moment. He said they would most likely test positive for antibodies because either they were exposed when it was going around or because they've developed a natural immunity, which is what I suspect about my orps. He said there is no way to test whether or not the birds would shed the virus in the future, but odds were good that they wouldn't since they've already experienced stress from the weather and by moving birds around and so far everyone is fine. (knocking on wood)

I've talked to a some of reputable breeders and have been shocked to find out that they are completely casual about ILT. One lady said, "Oh, yeah. My birds got that a couple of years ago and they've been fine ever since." And this lady is BIG into breeding and ships all over the country. I just couldn't sleep at night if I did that.
I got a bill from my vet for the testing that UT did and it was almost $600!

I guess it doesn't pay to tick off the pathologist! They estimated the tests would be around $100 total.

I have New-Years-Day-Hatch-envy! I hope everyone takes lots and lots of pictures.

I am sorry about the test not being an end all per say.

I am just going to throw this out there & if I offend anyone or it seems like I am trying to start an argument it is not my intent: I am starting to wonder how many breeders or companies have ILT and continue to sell fertile eggs, chicks & adult birds. I am also wondering how many of us have ILT in our flocks and do not know it? I mean when you think about it did all your chickens come from fertile eggs (if I remember correctly it can't be passed through the eggs or the infected eggs do not hatch, not sure)? How many young chicks, pullets, cockerels or adult birds have you brought in (I don't think quarantining is fool proof either)? I mean unless there is an outbreak and you follow through like Daphne did how do you/we know? It just makes me wonder.

 

[TNBarnQueen]

@littlechicklet..I don't think your questioning.that is a very valid point. And this is my take on it. First...becoming NPIP should help in one way..in others before one orders or buys eggs...get real nosey. I do...I ask a lot of questions such as...
How long have you been raising this breed you are selling?
What generation are your eggs and what generation did you start working at with yours?
Do you collect your eggs daily?
Are your breeds separated?
How do you house your breeding stock? (Course if they saw my redneck runs they would roll laughing! But the are clean)

Things like that. A reputable breeder should not have a problem with answering your questions. I offer the information to anyone who buys eggs or chickens from me. With chickens I try to let them know when I wormed and treated for mites. Also....start asking around. Many times on the auctions here there will be people who have posted replies on the auction itself especially if it is an auction being bumped. Go to the thread for the breed you are considering. Lurking on threads like that for a while..you will soon be able to recognize someone you can trust or point you to someone you can. There are just a lot of things that have to be considered. This past year I was VERY picky with who I bought from...for what I gave for some of my eggs.....I want as many questions answered as I can get....but..still one slipped through. I bought some eggs from a woman I actually encouraged to start selling her eggs. She started selling eggs from her lavenders and paint silkies. Well..as a result after $105...my paints are peach color...my lavender has 1/2 a toe on each outer feathered foot and part of them have 6 toes. so.....it all boils down to there is always a chance you may get something that you did not expect...but taking precautions in asking questions and talking to breeders does help eliminate problems to a point. I hope this made sense and helped answer your question. Keep in mind that to get good quality eggs are not going to come cheap...but it is worth paying a bit more to buy from reputable breeders. Oh...also..if you can find a breeder that is not a long drive and get your eggs or chickens really is nice.