EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[daxigait]

Dax good morning to you and all the others
I have written an option of using your flounder.

I saw it. Thank you very much. Did you have a good visit and weekend? Any pictures?

 

[daxigait]

Work and chores. Gotta pick up so.e Christmas presents as well. How about you?

Oh okay. How big is the tank that you need 1500 watts? The de-icers that I use are made by K&H, bought them on Amazon.

I have 50 & 200 gallon tanks. I bought two of the ones you recommend. One is in the chicken water, and the other is on the way.

 

[Akrnaf2]

Dax good morning to you and all the others
I have written an option of using your flounder.

Shalom Benny.

Shalom C18!
How is Monday?

 

[Akrnaf2]

Dax good morning to you and all the others
I have written an option of using your flounder.

I saw it. Thank you very much. Did you have a good visit and weekend? Any pictures?

Nice visit, no pictures everything is in molt! :/
But we saw the chicken people film !

 

[daxigait]

Nice visit, no pictures everything is in molt! :/
But we saw the chicken people film !

I am glad you enjoyed your visit.

 

[OneMountainAcres]

[COLOR=0000CD]GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE! YOU KNOW THE DRILL! BABY SEALS ARE IN THE BACK! STAY SAFE OUT THERE![/COLOR]

Morning Abi! Those elephants are perfect examples of me and Hubby. I'm the one face down in the water lol

 

[Chaos18]

I have 50 & 200 gallon tanks. I bought two of the ones you recommend. One is in the chicken water, and the other is on the way.

Yea I guess for something that big you would need more wattage.

 

[Chaos18]

Shalom C18!
How is Monday?

It is Monday and can always use more coffee. How is the teaching going?

 

[dan26552]

That may be the cheapest way to go about it. The protein in the vegetable sourced feeds is supplemented by synthetic lysine and methionine that you'll find posted in the ingredient list. They are down the list near the added stabilized vitamins.

Just look for the crude protein % and look for meat/fish to be the first ingredients listed.

I opt for plain meat or fish. I have 60% fishmeal that I mix in at a 10:1 ratio that raises a 16% feed to 20%.
A really cheap and simple thing is canned mackerel. Good quality fish and the cheapest canned one can buy per ounce in a grocery store.

That's fast and convenient.
The first time I raised a big batch of meat birds as an adult, the only place I could find was about 60 miles away in Illinois. Add the travel time/cost and price to the cost of raising them I decided it didn't make sense not to do it myself here.

Nice. Is that an Arduino Uno?
I'm working on the same thing.
Mind sharing what sensors you/he are using?

You wake up little Suzie, it's too cold here.
The weather man says it is +3 here but I'm measuring exactly 0 F here at 5 AM on my Thermoworks instant read.
I'll check it closer to sunrise.

We used a dht11 for humidity and a ds18b20 for temperature. It displays the temperature and humidity on an lcd and controls the temp with a relay and lights.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Yup. As a supplement, for the animal protein - since they're molting, though some folks do it year round. (All the protein in any of the feeds I can find is vegetable/soy.) They do really well on it. We've been chatting a lot about it over on the Breeding for Production thread.

- Ant Farm

I wanted to add some protein numbers and pricing to what I said before.
I was just at the grocery store and checked prices. Your numbers may vary. Most canned cat food started around 20 cents per ounce. Some were as low as 11% protein.
Dry cat food varied between 12 and 28 cents per ounce. The protein varied between 11 and 33% protein.
So if you just go buy cat food based on someone's suggestion, if you don't read the label for ingredients and protein %, you're just winging it.
If you buy without reading the label, you could be lowering amino acids rather than increasing them.
Mackerel, on the other hand, is 10 cents per ounce and you're getting plain fish with no additives which are added to supplement the meat or fish in cat food making the food specific to the needs of feline carnivores.
So, in my mind, why pay more to enhance the amino acid balance of chicken feed by buying cat food when you can get mackerel that is about 23% protein and high in omega-3.
The whole idea of upping protein during molt or for breeding is to improve the amino acid balance for omnivores from that which is in plant based diets. Crude protein is misleading in many ways. Some grains may be as high as 14% protein (though most are much lower) but they have huge deficiencies in certain amino acids. More of the amino acids are essential to chickens than humans.

A Radiant heat driveway and sidewalks would be great.

The way my house and property are situated would make it worthwhile. I've talked about my microclimates before. The house is a tall, long and narrow brick, flat roofed structure. The east side is a big field. The west side is dense shade with up to 70' trees. That's where the driveway is. Regardless of snowfall and temps, the east side is snow free after just a few days. The driveway side can have snow for a couple months. Since I would only need to heat the surface temp to about 40F or so during a snowfall, it would be fairly efficient and wouldn't have to run long each storm to keep it snow and ice free all winter. I already have a gas boiler on that side of the house with a way to run piping out to the drive. It would be well worth it to not have the hassle. The end of the drive has a bit of a slope to it so there are times you can't get all the way up it and turning around at the end is a huge challenge if we get a big dump.