EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Akrnaf2]

Shalom C18!

How is Monday?

It is Monday and can always use more coffee. How is the teaching going?

It is Monday and it is my day off
SSDP!

 

[Akrnaf2]

 


Yup. As a supplement, for the animal protein - since they're molting, though some folks do it year round. (All the protein in any of the feeds I can find is vegetable/soy.) They do really well on it. We've been chatting a lot about it over on the Breeding  for Production thread.

- Ant Farm 

I wanted to add some protein numbers and pricing to what I said before.
I was just at the grocery store and checked prices. Your numbers may vary. Most canned cat food started around 20 cents per ounce. Some were as low as 11% protein.
Dry cat food varied between 12 and 28 cents per ounce. The protein varied between 11 and 33% protein.
So if you just go buy cat food based on someone's suggestion, if you don't read the label for ingredients and protein %, you're just winging it.
If you buy without reading the label, you could be lowering amino acids rather than increasing them.
Mackerel, on the other hand, is 10 cents per ounce and you're getting plain fish with no additives which are added to supplement the meat or fish in cat food making the food specific to the needs of feline carnivores.
So, in my mind, why pay more to enhance the amino acid balance of chicken feed buy buying cat food when you can get mackerel that is about 23% protein and high in omega-3.
The whole idea of upping protein during molt or for breeding is to improve the amino acid balance for omnivores from what is in plant based diets. Crude protein is misleading in many ways. Some grains may be as high as 14% protein (though most are much lower) but they have huge deficiencies in certain amino acids. More of the amino acids are essential to chickens than humans.

 
A Radiant heat driveway and sidewalks would be great.

The way my house and property are situated would make it worthwhile. I've talked about my microclimates before. The house is a tall, long and narrow brick, flat roofed structure. The east side is a big field. The west side is dense shade with up to 70' trees. That's where the driveway is. Regardless of snowfall and temps, the east side is snow free after just a few days. The driveway side can have snow for a couple months. Since I would only need to heat the surface temp to about 40F or so during a snowfall, it would be fairly efficient and wouldn't have to run long each storm to keep it snow and ice free all winter. I already have a gas boiler on that side of the house with a way to run piping out to the drive. It would be well worth it to not have the hassle. The end of the drive has a bit of a slope to it so there are times you can't get all the way up it and turning around at the end is a huge challenge if we get a big dump.

Give them the extra eggs. I have some vitamins that usually have to go in the drinking water, I instead mix them with some water and add this high concentration goodness to their fermented-dry feed mix.
Some electrolytes are also supplemented with high concentration of essential Amino acids, (lysine, methionine ect) and I add them TO THE FEED and not the water.

 

[Chaos18]

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The way my house and property are situated would make it worthwhile. I've talked about my microclimates before. The house is a tall, long and narrow brick, flat roofed structure. The east side is a big field. The west side is dense shade with up to 70' trees. That's where the driveway is. Regardless of snowfall and temps, the east side is snow free after just a few days. The driveway side can have snow for a couple months. Since I would only need to heat the surface temp to about 40F or so during a snowfall, it would be fairly efficient and wouldn't have to run long each storm to keep it snow and ice free all winter. I already have a gas boiler on that side of the house with a way to run piping out to the drive. It would be well worth it to not have the hassle. The end of the drive has a bit of a slope to it so there are times you can't get all the way up it and turning around at the end is a huge challenge if we get a big dump.

The way our house is setup having radiant heat for the driveway wouldn't be feasible. Our driveway is steep with a giant flat gravel spot at the top just outside the garage.

 

[daxigait]

Give them the extra eggs. I have some vitamins that usually have to go in the drinking water, I instead mix them with some water and add this high concentration goodness to their fermented-dry feed mix.
Some electrolytes are also supplemented with high concentration of essential Amino acids, (lysine, methionine ect) and I add them TO THE FEED and not the water.

What vitamins do you give them?

Is the link to fermenting feed in the notes?

 

[Akrnaf2]

Give them the extra eggs. I have some vitamins that usually have to go in the drinking water, I instead mix them with some water and add this high concentration goodness to their fermented-dry feed mix.
Some electrolytes are also supplemented with high concentration of essential Amino acids, (lysine, methionine ect) and I add them TO THE FEED and not the water.

What vitamins do you give them?

Is the link to fermenting feed in the notes?

It a poultry liquid vitamins, manufactured in Israel.
http://www.dorky.co.il/category1p0
They have it also in English.
http://www.dorky.co.il/englishcategory6
I use the super Biovit

 

[Akrnaf2]

Nice informative site

http://www.hyline.com/aspx/redbook/redbook.aspx?s=1

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Give them the extra eggs. I have some vitamins that usually have to go in the drinking water, I instead mix them with some water and add this high concentration goodness to their fermented-dry feed mix.
Some electrolytes are also supplemented with high concentration of essential Amino acids, (lysine, methionine ect) and I add them TO THE FEED and not the water.

Rarely have extra eggs here. Sometimes, like in September, we don't have enough for ourselves.
When they are laying like gangbusters, I try to hatch a lot or sell hatching eggs or eating eggs and we can easily use the rest.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

The guys were all at a deer camp. No one wanted to room with Bob, because he snored so badly. They decided it wasn't fair to make one of them stay with him the whole time, so they voted to take turns. The first guy slept with Bob and comes to breakfast the next morning with his hair a mess and his eyes all bloodshot. They said, 'Man, what happened to you?'

He said, Bob snored so loudly, I just sat up and watched him all night.

The next night it was a different guy's turn. In the morning, same thing - hair all standing up, eyes all bloodshot. They said, 'Man, what happened to you? You look awful!'

He said, 'Man, that Bob shakes the roof with his snoring. I watched him all night.'

The third night was Pete's turn. Pete was a big burly ex-Navy man; a man's man. The next morning he came to breakfast bright eyed and bushy tailed. 'Good morning,' he said.

They couldn't believe it! They said, 'Man, what happened?'

"He said, 'Well, we got ready for bed. I went and tucked Bob into bed, patted him on the butt, and kissed him good night.

'Bob sat up and watched me all night'.

 

[Chaos18]

 

[Lucky Lemon]

We had such a crazy busy weekend, I didn't have a chance to get on the thread and catch up until this morning.

Hope everyone is staying warm and enjoying this Monday.

We finally have our sweet puppy! She is so adorable and we love her so much already!