EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

Quote: Aaaaand... I woke up to 5 more pips this morning! All but one of the OE eggs, and Switch's egg. Apparently they were nervous about being in those net bags and want out or something.
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IT'S FRIDAY!!!!
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NOW THAT THE ADULTS ARE THINKING, "SO? NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE WHOLE FAMILY WITHOUT A BREAK. NOW I HAVE TO BUILD A COOP, FIX THE ROOF...."
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE!!!
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Thanks, MC! Where did you get my to do list - did I leave it lying around again?

Quote: OMG, how is it that you don't know this movie?!?!?! It's not Apocalypto, and not subtitled.
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Quote: Nope - Magua was Huron.
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Nice egg colors! I have a green tint to my most saturated eggs - I do have more blue ones, but they are a little less saturated (more washed out looking), and they are from the hen with ocular Mareks. I have a total of five laying legbar hens/pullets, and that'll do for now for me - but I want Ameraucanas in the future - I'd like to cross them with NNs to get green eggs and a pea comb. (I was going to with Goodwin, but alas, he's gone...)

Here's my egg skelter in my kitchen this AM (forgive the mess - that's on the to do list as well). You can see the lighter blue eggs (Jenny) and the deeply saturated blue green eggs (Lissa and the Three Witches). The color of blue eggs is always really hard to get on camera - direct sunlight is best for accuracy in the hue, I find...


- Ant Farm
I'm more in awe of the ones that look like chocolate-covered raisins
 
Dax here the answer to my trivia


This is the flag of the Iroquois nations federation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois

This federation was established by a lndian leader called Hiawatha
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiawatha

He was influenced by a very powerful medicine men calld the "grate peacemaker " wich was a Huron tribe member.

The Wyandotte ard basically the Huron tribe


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyandot_people

So the connection are the HURONS the "bad" guys in the "last of the Mohicans "
I thought Hiawatha was female?
 
Enya got caught by a hawk :he
Think she's ok, couldn't find any wounds.... She is walking fine and doesn't seem to be shocky.

Maple's other toe seems to be developing wet gangrene.... Tied a band around it to hopefully keep infection from spreading.
 
Enya got caught by a hawk
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Think she's ok, couldn't find any wounds.... She is walking fine and doesn't seem to be shocky.

Maple's other toe seems to be developing wet gangrene.... Tied a band around it to hopefully keep infection from spreading.
you have the worst luck
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How long have you given it to stabilize?

what's a heat sink
Do you own a dictionary?

American Heritage Science Dictionary
heat sink

  1. A protective device that absorbs and dissipates the excess heat generated by a system.
  2. An environment capable of absorbing heat from substances within it (and with which it is in thermal contact) without an appreciable change in its own temperature and without a change in its own phase.

Oxford English Dictionary
Definition of heat sink
  1. : a substance or device that absorbs or dissipates especially unwanted heat (as from a process or an electronic device)

Collins English dictionary
heat sink

noun
1.
a metal plate specially designed to conduct and radiate heat from an electrical component
2.
a layer of material placed within the outer skin of high-speed aircraft to absorb heat

Dictionary.com
Heat sink
noun
1.
Thermodynamics. any environment or medium that absorbs heat.
2.
Also, heatsink. Electronics. a metallic heat exchanger designed to absorb and dissipate excess heat from one of the devices, as a transistor or resistor, in a circuit.

Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Definition of heat sink

  1. : a substance or device that absorbs or dissipates especially unwanted heat (as from a process or an electronic device)
Dictionary of Computing
hardware heat sink
/heet sink/ (from "sink", electronics jargon for something which takes in current) A piece of thermally conductive metal attached to a semiconductor or other electronic device and designed to prevent it from overheating by conducting heat away from it and radiating it to the environment. Heat sinks often have fins to increase their surface area. They occasionally have fans attached. Heat sink compound can be smeared between the device and the heat sink to improve thermal conduction.



I highly recommend, if you don't have one, to get the Webster's New Lexicon.

We are going to TSC tommorow for feed can I get a accurate thermo/hygro there or the pets tore is right by it is that a better place for accurate ones
You can buy thermometers a lot of places, but they won't be accurate enough for incubating eggs.
No thermometer you can buy in a store will be certified to be closer than +/- 2F.

I've bought several supposedly accurate thermometers for herpetariums and aquariums. They weren't.

I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat myself.

Now come on Whites. Don't you know this is the age of instant gratification. Aint got time to order something and have to wait on it. He's going to town tommorow and wants a replacement.
And waste more money on something that won't do the job.

You are going to buy a thermometer from a store that doesn't carry thermometers accurate enough for incubation - thereby wasting money.

FOR THE RECORD, Many ducks actually spend all day following people around.

It is best to be wary of them.........

When you drop your guard is when they attack....
They attack because they're mad since you didn't stand still in the first place so they had to follow you around - on land.

How do u go about on having certain breed when I ha v e 60 chickens of all kinds
Get rid of the other 60. If they're together, they'll breed. If 60 various breeds mate, you'll have a bunch more mutts.

You get rid of most of the 60 chickens and buy back quality breeding stock. Then you build lots and lots of pens to keep all the breeding stock separate from all the other breeds.

If you want just one breed, you get rid of all the roosters except that breed...

And expect to work your butt off, Having lots of breeding pens keeps me busy most the day.
Good concise advice.

I would never eat my chickens
You won't eat them and continue to hatch. So then they in turn eat you out of house and home.
What do you do with them when they no longer lay eggs?

If you have 60 chickens in one big pen, you won't know who is laying and who isn't.

why do u have to though why is that better then just having a huge mixed flock
Because you just got done asking, "How do u go about on having certain breed when I ha v e 60 chickens of all kinds"

Having a huge mixed flock means you will never have a single pure breed.

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I am very nervous! Duckling found out that the incubator is plugged in. She might add some eggs when I'm not looking!
Staggered hatch?
Are the ones in there marked?

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It's going to get 100-110 in just a few weeks, ...

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From this mornings candle.
That's amazing. Thanks for posting.

Yep - I've had viable eggs that I NEVER caught moving - I always worry when a newbie posts thinking they should toss an egg because they can't see it move.
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Veins, go by the veins, everyone...
I can't even see veins but they stay till day 23.

Yup... I think that's why everyone says "DON'T CANDLE TILL DAY SEVEN, NEVER TOSS BEFORE 14" coz otherwise you've gotta spend several paragraphs drumming into their heads that no, just coz it there are no veins on day two doesn't mean it's infertile, and not all eggs move. Newbies (not you, Dan, you're good) seem to be too toss-happy IMO- It's not gonna explode if you just keep a nose out, so why risk it?
When people say their eggs quit, I say, "Oh ye of little faith". Of course if I was candling white eggs all the time, my view would be different.
There's just no reason to candle before day 7.

Just realised- In four days, it will have been exactly one year since I started incubating.
You've learned a lot.
I've had chickens off an on for 60 years - give or take. But I've only been breeding birds about 7 years so no incubation before then.

If you have the room why throw them oot (Icelandic Speeling)? I wait until I know they are worthless on day 18 unless I need the space...


I just did a quick candle of some eggs. I will be making some Substitutions tomorrow. Ed is being pulled for bad pitching, and the Maran rooster will be joining Ed in the bull pen. I need rooster with some sex drive that can hit the target.
Are the birds in the bull pen all the same breed?
It is still early in the season to determine sex drive.
Just like hens need longer days to stimulate onset of lay. Roosters need to be photostimulated to energize the gonads.

BTW Why candle? I only candled a few eggs at day 8 to see if I needed to change roosters. I have had 2 hatches before this so I knew it was a possibility. I was eyeing up the bull pen today to see who is going in. I think I have them picked out.
I usually candle twice during incubation at the most.

I have a blue Ameruacana cock. I was not happy with the legbar eggs from the ones I got around here. I want blue eggs not a pale greenish color. I know some are supposed to have actual blue eggs, but these GFF ones were not blue.
Very few

I just started thinking about these reasoning options myself. I originally purchased several different breeds from the chick days in March last year, wanted to see which ones I would adapt to most. I now know I am not fond of Barred Rocks, not sure why. I love the looks of the black n reds, like the GLW, GShamburg, love my Black Stars (Sex-links). I don't know why this is. Maybe it is coloring. I also like my Brabanters (creme) and Spitzhauben (silver spangled). I don't mind my SLW and the SSHamburg, bust be something about the reds in general that I like most. I have also come to like the 2 Delawares. Named them Hari Kari.

I am ordering 1 doz Sulmtaler hatching eggs and 1 doz Bielefelder hatching eggs. I am super excited to get these 2 breeds. I am going to try and thin out my mixed flock, and keep only the certain breeds that I like, with the purpose of meat for 1 group, eggs (mostly for color) for the other group and of course the exhibition breeds, we only have 1 bird (Phoenix). I also have Turkeys. But they too are different breeds, hen is Royal Palm and tom is Slate Blue x Bourbon Red.

I know a lot of info, but in reading your bantering with one another, I kind of had the epiphany that I am on the same track. It all started out with trying to find out which birds I am most attracted to and what the purpose is that I am seeking. Of course in the end, I always want pretty birds on top of it all.

I just hatched 9 mixed breeds, and 2 barred rocks, 1 turkey! Prior to that I had a meat bird project going where I crossed out our pardoned rooster from 4 Slow Growers in the bin marked Rainbow Broilers, and used a few different breed hens to see which ones grow out best. So far I think Partridge Rock hen and Cuckoo Marans are the 2 best for growing size of their offspring. I tried a mix with the Jersey Giant girl and Black Australorp, but they turned out smallish. Thinking they are going to be girls. This batch of 6 are at 9 wk now.
I came to this in a similar manner. After originally having 100 bird flocks of white leghorns, I got some Plymouth rocks, jersey giants and orpingtons. Over the course of the next year, I ended up with about 25 more breeds (thanks to an end of the season grab bag of chicks from Sandhill Preservation.
It really is a good way to get a feel of what you like and don't like about breed characteristics.
I think breed behavior is the first place to look rather than color since most breeds come in multiple colors.
My Welsummers got me interested in dark eggs which brought me to Penedesencas which soon became my favorite and I divested myself in one way or another of all other breeds.

A trivia questions :

What is the connection between this 3 pics?







No idea.
There's vegetation in each picture?
 
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