EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[BantyChooks]

No. Its just not in the whole shell... its still covered in a thick membrane.

Ahh, okay....

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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@mustangrooster , I'm afraid I'm with Ralphie - you should not fiddle with or pick at the pip, or otherwise open the egg, until you get to about day 23 or so. If you see the second post at the beginning of this thread, there are links about this - you can also check out the Hatching 101 article.

The odds are against a chick pulled out if its shell before it was ready living. It's almost always best to let them do the WHOLE thing on their own. Even malpositioned chicks who pip at the wrong end can zip and get themselves out if you give them time (happened to me with my first hatch). Chicks that cannot hatch on their own may have something wrong with them...

You should also avoid opening the incubator during lockdown (also see links at the beginning of the thread about that). At 20 days, you should leave all of the rest of any eggs you have in there alone.

- Ant Farm

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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The fact that a chick isn't moving in its shell doesn't mean it's dead or weak - they need to rest after they move into position, and then again after they pip. It's hard work. And they also sleep sometimes. NEVER toss an egg when candling just because you can't see movement, and I wouldn't mess with an egg in lock down - I have only had one or two (out of a few dozen I've hatched) that rocked.

If you're in lock down, you need to leave the incubator shut (and make sure your humidity is high - 65-70%), and don't open it AT ALL. At this point, it's all up to the chicks, and usually the only thing you can do is make it worse.

- Ant Farm

 

[mustangrooster]

@mustangrooster , I'm afraid I'm with Ralphie - you should not fiddle with or pick at the pip, or otherwise open the egg, until you get to about day 23 or so. If you see the second post at the beginning of this thread, there are links about this - you can also check out the Hatching 101 article.

The odds are against a chick pulled out if its shell before it was ready living. It's almost always best to let them do the WHOLE thing on their own. Even malpositioned chicks who pip at the wrong end can zip and get themselves out if you give them time (happened to me with my first hatch). Chicks that cannot hatch on their own may have something wrong with them...

You should also avoid opening the incubator during lockdown (also see links at the beginning of the thread about that). At 20 days, you should leave all of the rest of any eggs you have in there alone.

- Ant Farm

Yeah,

I realize it was a mistake now.. (this chick was in a separate incubator to the ones hatching..)

I knew it was going to die but i wanted to try and give it a living chance...it just died .I did eggtopsy it had an infected yolk sack, missing eyes and some weird deformity..

Oh well.

Thanks for the help.

 

[mustangrooster]

The fact that a chick isn't moving in its shell doesn't mean it's dead or weak - they need to rest after they move into position, and then again after they pip. It's hard work. And they also sleep sometimes. NEVER toss an egg when candling just because you can't see movement, and I wouldn't mess with an egg in lock down - I have only had one or two (out of a few dozen I've hatched) that rocked.

If you're in lock down, you need to leave the incubator shut (and make sure your humidity is high - 65-70%), and don't open it AT ALL. At this point, it's all up to the chicks, and usually the only thing you can do is make it worse.

- Ant Farm

Im not talking about rocking.. im talking about dead still movement. I chipped egg shell away from the airsack and its leg was pointing up, i touched it and it was dead still.

It also smelt funny so thats what backed the thought that it was dead.

Thanks,

-Mustang

 

[BantyChooks]

Yeah,

I realize  it was a mistake now.. (this chick was in a separate incubator to the ones hatching..) 

I knew it was going to die but i wanted to try and give it a living chance...it just died .I did eggtopsy it had an infected yolk sack, missing eyes and some weird deformity..

Oh well.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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Sorry if I sounded harsh at all, just trying to help you understand not to mess with them if you didn't already know, so you would know for the other eggs. I didn't know when I first started either, and helped a couple I should have left alone. I've just seen a couple different folks who had low temperatures during incubation almost give up on their hatches, one unplugged their incubator on day 24, then heard chirping - several chicks made it out in that hatch despite everything against them. And Dan, here, got an outstanding hatch of his ducklings even after the incubator dropped to 54F overnight. So don't give up on their ability to make it out, and often when they can't, something's wrong (like with yours).

Sorry this happened - it's hard to try to save one and have them die. That's the other reason I don't help - most I've tried to help have died or had to be put down - hurts my heart.

- Ant Farm

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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Ooooh... OK. (Some folks will think their chicks are dead if they are not rocking or moving, didn't want you to give up on your other eggs.)

 

[mustangrooster]

Ooooh... OK. (Some folks will think their chicks are dead if they are not rocking or moving, didn't want you to give up on your other eggs.)

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My other eggs...well the one that is mal-positioned at the pointy end of the egg has been making distress peeps, and the other one is awfully quiet. Its taking everything i have to wait for them..

Sorry if I sounded harsh at all, just trying to help you understand not to mess with them if you didn't already know, so you would know for the other eggs. I didn't know when I first started either, and helped a couple I should have left alone. I've just seen a couple different folks who had low temperatures during incubation almost give up on their hatches, one unplugged their incubator on day 24, then heard chirping - several chicks made it out in that hatch despite everything against them. And Dan, here, got an outstanding hatch of his ducklings even after the incubator dropped to 54F overnight. So don't give up on their ability to make it out, and often when they can't, something's wrong (like with yours).

Sorry this happened - it's hard to try to save one and have them die. That's the other reason I don't help - most I've tried to help have died or had to be put down - hurts my heart.

- Ant Farm

No no dont apologize, sometimes i need a firm word to keep me from having a freakout

Wow 54 F and still a good hatch? Tough Cookies.

Thats the part that gets me, it hurts more if i find a dead chick in the shell mal-positioned or such and i could of saved it..thats a hard one.

Thanks for the kind words- ☺

Thanks for your help ☺

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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Any time at all - that's the purpose of this thread and that's why we're here! There's usually someone around to help, or to tell you where to find help (there there are sometimes slow periods - like now, for instance).

(You should have seen all the frantic posts I posted when I was doing my first hatch!

)

- Ant Farm