EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Akrnaf2]

I saw it was somebody's birthday? HAPPY BIRTHDAY

Statistically it is 7,400,000,000/365 people birthday today, and everyday!

 

[Akrnaf2]

What do you have against the CX?

Pretty much everything. I just don't like them, I don't think an eight week old chick should weigh like 8lbs. Also, they are ill suited for my set up.

Do the Red Rangers taste different? If you compare it to CX that have been raised in the same manner?

 

[dan26552]

Do the Red Rangers taste different? If you compare it to CX that have been raised in the same manner?

Yes. Age equals flavor, so a Red ranger that's three or four months old is going to have way more flavor than an eight week old Cornish cross, even if they're raised the same.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote: Sorry, yes, I was referring to genetically polled goats - I had remembered that there was a downside. What is the risk of breeding polled to polled?

@Fire Ant Farm stupid chicken. I hope you don't hurt much this morning. Have a great day.

I read this at about 11:30pm, and realized I hadn't checked on her tonight, so I went out with the headlamp (with my robe on), and she was not in the tree or the yard or the t post. I've found that they stop doing it after being pulled down after one or two nights (three at most) - I'm not abusive, but it's not particularly pleasant for them to get yanked down clumsily in the middle of the night. They learn fast.

Thanks for the good wishes - I was so exhausted I had to come home, and I laid down for about 4 hours, then woke up at 6pm and spent several hours getting chores done. Heading to bed again soon, hoping to get a good solid night - no sanding today, so maybe it'll be better.

Quote:

I love little goalie pictures - thanks! Made my evening!!!

Can I ask a question? What are the pros and cons of getting a polled goat? I read abut it, but didn't seem to retain it...

I can answer that and I am new!!
ONE just ONE out of four had horns and was disbudded and I got stuck with this!!! A spur quickly grown round down into Pequots head! I got the saw thing off amazon to remove it, but it ended up breaking off in my hand THANK GOD!! I didnt have to cut that sucker! yuk!!


and
disbudding sucks and if you dont find the right person to do it, they can have brain damage, infections and a good chance as scurs

Sure - only lumber at the moment, but I'll document. Rushing to get another tractor built to get the 6 week olds out - they are WAY ready to go out. Cleaned out their brooder tonight - yuck.

Yeah, the reason I asked about polled goats is that it would be nice to not have to deal with disbudding at all, and the place where I hope to get my goats lists them as polled or possible polled. I was just trying to remember the downside. Hoping Mike can clarify.

Chrissy says hi....

Quote: Yeah, mine has all crown back, gotta mow again.

I called Stromberg and the lady that answered was SUPER nice. She pulled up my order and said it says is 'ready to ship". She expects it to ship today. Once it ships she can give me a shipping number. She says she'll email that to me.

Thanks so much for checking - I would hate to take yours - we'll see how fast Stromberg gets me the stuff.

I've had very good experiences ordering from them - they aren't like Amazon, so stuff doesn't go out immediately, but they have great customer service. I get my numbered zip ties for banding the chicks from them.

Hey sweets.....

Check out gooserz and the goats tonight

Sally, does Gooserz also sleep with the goats? Totally thinking about a combined goozerz/goaties housing solution because of you!!!!

OK, I need to head to bed. Later, all!!!

- Ant Farm

 

[Razadia]

Apparently there was a sudden drop in humidity while this little one was getting ready for the final push. It got stuck and I had to help it out. Poor thing was more than ready to escape the shell. As soon as I got the membrane loosened it kicked the shell off. Thankfully the last one I have faith is going to hatch, is still getting ready to zip, so not much moister loss. I added more water when I put the stuck chick back. It's got curled toes. Probably from being stuck in the nearly hatched position for several hours longer than needed.

I'm glad you got him out! Hopefully his toes will straighten themselves out

I'll probably have to correct its feet. The other one is doing great. Actually, they both are. They're active and the only noticeable problem is the curling. The third chick is zipping with no problems, so at least helping that one out didn't cause any problems.

 

[Akrnaf2]

@Sally Sunshine


So, my kid spiked a 103 degree fever, and had a cough. No big deal, that's usually her first sign of strep. 1/4 times, it will actually be positive, but her fever won't break until she gets antibiotics. She sometimes will get false negatives because we test, too early.

We go to the stat clinic, they swab her. it turns positive. Okay, great, that makes it easy I don't ahve to beg them to give her antibiotics.

They want to get tylonal into her, they refuse to give her a pill form of tylonal. I offer to give her one from my bag, and break it in half, because she can only take pills. They say no, it has to be a perfectly measured dose.. she speaks up and advocates for herself, tells them that she can't swallow liquid meds, that they make her vomit.

They say "no worries, we'll mix it in juice." she tells them again, it will make her vomit and she can't do it. They look at me and I back her up and say, she will puke, but if you insist this is the only way you'll give her tylonal, it's up to you.

They force it on her, and she gets about half of it into her stomach, before her eyes roll into the back of her head, she gags, and vomits everywhere in the room.

Poor kid is totally traumatized, and now very upset that they wouldn't listen to her, even though she clearly communicated. She insisted, that I tell them to put it in her file, that she has that reaction to liquid meds, and liquid meds are NOT an option.

So, after that, they want to give her a generic, penicillin based antibiotic. She has a history of strep being resistant, and us going back in 3 days for a different, not-pencillin based one. To save them time, I inform them of this, and ask for anything that's not in that family.

They go ahead and write her a prescription for it, the adult pill is 250mg, split in half, it's 125, and the pharmacy has done this before for strep, she gets it 3-4x a year (we do need to see an ENT at the end of the year if she gets it more than 1x this year.)

I get there, and the doctor wrote that it's only 240, for the first day, and 120 the rest of the days after. (1 pill a day.) anyways, I tell the pharmacy to call and talk to the doctor to fix it, so she can get the pill form. It's only 10mg off, and 5mg per day more than the doctor wrote, and while I know the doctor is doing it "based on her weight" the pharmacy says 240 and 125 is perfectly acceptable for both her age, and her weight, and when I got home I looked it up, and she could actually have up to 400mg per day with out it causing a problem......

Doctor, refused to budge. So the only way they could give it to her, was in a liquid suspension form... and with her medical history of vomiting that wasn't an option, especially since they can't give it in yogurt, or icecream as that deactivates the liquid antibiotic............

The pharmecist, did everything she could to get the doctor to fix it, so she could give her the pill form, but the doctor wouldn't listen, and instead, offered us a shot of antibiotics.

she listed some random, weird name, and I didn't think twice because i assumed, she wouldn't dare give her penicillin, after everything we'd gone through so far.

She gets the shot, which hurts like a *****, and handles it really well. We go home, she eats ice cream and goes to bed. In all other times with strep, her fever usually breaks after the first dose of meds... so when lunch rolls around and she's still spiking a 103 degree temp and complaining that she feels like she's going to die, my husband asked to see the paperwork and looks up the shot she was given.

It was in the penicillin family. So after running around, we finally got a fking prescription for keflex and were able to get her first dose into her, and a few hours later, she's finally starting to feel better. She'll take 4 more doses, 1x per day.

Then........ the baby broke a fever, cough same symptoms. We take the paperwork BACK to the walk in clinic, and get told since she's 2 weeks away from 1, they won't see her, so we have to take her to the local ER. (grumbles, sigh, fine.) we take her there, only to have this on call ER doc, who was a "roaming doctor" swab her, and refuse to give her antibotics, but tell us that if she's not better by friday, to take her back to her pediatrician, to get antibiotics from her GP. *Faceplants*

As I'm leaving, the nurse pulls me aside, and said he talked to a few of his peers, who said their hospital protocol, is to treat every sick family member, as if they have strep, if they present symptoms, once someone's swabbed positive for it. He said it was probably just too early to test positive yet, since she just started showing symptoms today.  He apologized, and said if he could have gotten the doctor to listen, we'd have left with a prescription to help her.

Oddly enough, my baby had a 102.4 degree fever, and when they tried to give her oral motrin, she spit the medicine back into the face of the nurse. I've never given her oral meds before.. she's never been sick enough to need them yet. Plus - I normally do rectal meds for toddlers/babies, to make my life easier. LOL

He even pinched her nose, and she refused to swallow, insteda, she somehow, managed to collect all the medicine on her tongue and spray it like 3 feet straight up into the hair, into his face.

After all of this, I get home, and my husbands like "seriously? so you're going to have to take her back to the doctor in a couple days to get antibiotics if her fever's not gone, why did you waste your afternoon?"

Well.... yeah. Thanks honey, I had no idea it was going to go like that. ^.^

What about getting the antibiotics by an injection?

 

[Akrnaf2]

Do the Red Rangers taste different? If you compare it to CX that have been raised in the same manner?

Yes. Age equals flavor, so a Red ranger that's three or four months old is going to have way more flavor than an eight week old Cornish cross, even if they're raised the same.

Yes but Age equals toughness too.

 

[newchickmama91]

Hi all! One of my quail chicks is struggling to walk it's pretty clumsy compared to the other who is like sonic the hedgehog!! I was checking it over and between the hip and butt is like a little red sore patch it doesn't appear to have feathers on it? I'm new to having birds so help would really be appreciated!

 

[mlm Mike]

Quote: I had faith when you weren't going to originally hatch until spring.
I had faith you wouldn't get ducks until you had the proper shelter and pond built.
I have faith that you won't get any goat kids until you have a place to shelter them.

Hey, mister, you wanna buy a $500 watch for $50
Wow, what a deal! Must be my lucky day!

You accept Monopoly money?
Sure. Can you email it?
Of course, if you don't mind faxing the watch.

 

[BullChick]

Hi all! One of my quail chicks is struggling to walk it's pretty clumsy compared to the other who is like sonic the hedgehog!! I was checking it over and between the hip and butt is like a little red sore patch it doesn't appear to have feathers on it? I'm new to having birds so help would really be appreciated!

I'm taking a guess. My guess is that it had a difficult hatch, and needs time. It may have gotten stuck to the shell, and moving hurts. Give electrolytes, and time.