EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Lazy Farmer]

 

[Christinecam]

I take temps down to 99 day 18 and 19 then 98 for hatch....

humidity all depends on those air cells!

if eggs are spot on at lockdown run at 70-72
if eggs have lost too much, run higher
if not enough run lower until first pips then up to 75

I up alot at actual hatch pip time,easily in the 80's but I loose more weight than suggested 13% as I run a hotter dryer bator from start.

Its ALL about the eggs ladies!! each hatch is different!!

Oh bby do I have my work cut out.. I’ll have to check each one again. The seramas are (7) are very active and like said very malpositioned. There is one air cell that is near undetectable, i really think baby is upside down.
I’ll be checking out those files!
Many have large dips, U shaped going down one side.

 

[venymae]

Oh bby do I have my work cut out.. I’ll have to check each one again. The seramas are (7) are very active and like said very malpositioned. There is one air cell that is near undetectable, i really think baby is upside down.
I’ll be checking out those files!
Many have large dips, U shaped going down one side.

How do you know they are malpositioned?

 

[venymae]

Another question, well ducktape egg lost a bit more water weight and now the probable pip area is EXACTLY under a nice chunk of tape, I couldn't take it off without the eggshell pulling off too. HEEEEEEEELP! What would you do in this situation? Chick is still alive (saw a small movement)

@Sally Sunshine @mlm Mike @rjohns39 @kwhites634 @BantyChooks @Wickedchicken6

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Those soapers clearly are too focused on the INS numbers. Most people with soaping businesses will tell you that the INS numbers are rather archaic and haven't been seriously studied since the 1930s. I actually never heard anything about INS until I was two years into researching soap making, and that was when I was playing with Soapcalc. Most people I read from in the soaping community never brought up INS.

INS assumes complete uniformity across ALL olive oils, castor oils, etc and the truth is that real olive oils and castor oils and such will always have a variable INS due to growing conditions, what water you shower in, what lye you're using, and a host of other things. Soap ion general can be sticky/slimy in cold hard water but behave wonderfully in warm soft water. Soap in general can be more cleansing in soft water but leave you feeling greasy in hard water.

Scientifically INS is interesting but not realistic, it really comes down to preference and the overwhelming majority of soap makers prefer to treat INS as a curiosity or guideline and just soap however they like. So don't stress if your soap recipe doesn't have perfect INS numbers, most people's holy grail recipes don't have perfect INS.

ETA: INS declares pure Marseilles soap (a pure olive oil soap) to be horrible at cleansing. Anyone who has used Marseilles soap will tell you it's anything but. INS numbers are a guideline, not a hard and fast rule!

interesting!! thanks!

what are your thoughts on castor oil do you use it for suds or no, if so what percent is safe without getting the soap sticky?

do u use sugar at all? if so ratios? and in lye?

@hippiestink

 

[BantyChooks]

Another question, well ducktape egg lost a bit more water weight and now the probable pip area is EXACTLY under a nice chunk of tape, I couldn't take it off without the eggshell pulling off too. HEEEEEEEELP! What would you do in this situation? Chick is still alive (saw a small movement)

@Sally Sunshine @mlm Mike @rjohns39 @kwhites634 @BantyChooks @Wickedchicken6

Probably try and tease it off?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Another question, well ducktape egg lost a bit more water weight and now the probable pip area is EXACTLY under a nice chunk of tape, I couldn't take it off without the eggshell pulling off too. HEEEEEEEELP! What would you do in this situation? Chick is still alive (saw a small movement)

@Sally Sunshine @mlm Mike @rjohns39 @kwhites634 @BantyChooks @Wickedchicken6

What I would do is wait until you see pips in the others, grab that one and candle see if it has internal, if it does make a small breather hole in the top and wait until the others start hatching out and then chop out the part ABOVE the inner membrane line at its beak, open to air at internal pip is ok, but keep the bator closed after that and keep it away from the air flow keep humidity up

 

[venymae]

Probably try and tease it off?

do you think it would be better to take the tape off and the bit of shell with it? (it's impossible to remove without taking a bit of shell!) or just leave it on and hope for the best???!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Oh bby do I have my work cut out.. I’ll have to check each one again. The seramas are (7) are very active and like said very malpositioned. There is one air cell that is near undetectable, i really think baby is upside down.
I’ll be checking out those files!
Many have large dips, U shaped going down one side.

the saddle shaped ughhh keep your humidity a bit higher, what do you mean you cant see an air cell?

 

[venymae]

What I would do is wait until you see pips in the others, grab that one and candle see if it has internal, if it does make a small breather hole in the top and wait until the others start hatching out and then chop out the part ABOVE the inner membrane line at its beak, open to air at internal pip is ok, but keep the bator closed after that and keep it away from the air flow keep humidity up

It's the only one due to hatch! All the others are in the kindergarten classroom... I'm gonna get a pic of it, hold on!