EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Sally Sunshine]

Hi I have a question .I tried hatching out red jungle fowl eggs I ordered from a breeder on eBay. I placed the eggs right sided up in an egg carton and tilted them 3times a day. The air cell's were a mess. The temperature gauge on the janoel12 incubator read 38 . 2 degrees Celsius and 49% humidity. On the 8th day I candled them and I could see the chicks eyes They were developing. So far I lost only 8 eggs 0ut of 16 pretty good for shipped eggs . the eggs were rare and expensive so I was concerned. On day 18 it was time for lock down. I boosted the humidity to 56%. I could not stop thinking I did something wrong. After the 3rd day of lock down I still don't see any hatches or pips . I continued to waite. After the last day of lock down and still no chicks I decided to candled the eggs, The chicks were moving( what! )how could that be possible. So I left them in the incubator for 7 more days. I decided that they were dead and broke them open and when I did there were living chicks half deformed in side . I'm guessing they were deformed becuz they were in lock down for so long. Dose any one know what happened or ever seen anything like this. Thanks

I agree calibrating is very important. that and having more than one or two thermo hygros. How much variation did it have with temps? I always run a calibrated 100.5 and start with 25% humidity depending how large or small air cells are. Shipped eggs = change of plans. you should let them settle 12-24 hrs at room temp no turning and set in bator UPRIGHT at 100.5 calibrated, low humidity never under 18% AND DONT TOUCH OR TURN for 3 days, if an air cell is just loose just gentle 35% turning side to side upright (book under one end 3xday alternate) is just enough, rollers dont turn at all, I never had a complete roller hatch, typically they are scrambled from the chalaza being broken too. you will have to guage humidity via what the air cells in general are telling you. if you candle every three days after day 7 you can get a better grasp of needing lower or higher humidity. Day 18 you can lay flat and lock down, 65%humidity ( or leave upright is fine too) no turning after day 18. I reduce my temps when I see the first pip to 98.5 typically day 20 and I run 70 plus humidity thereafter. and hatch is 24 hrs est after first external pip.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

38.2 C to F is 100.8 not a bad temp, if you ran high humidity that very easily could have been culpret. however, let me see this specific breeds info. maybe they need other temps and needs.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

How do I calibrate a built in thermometer. sorry I'm new to this correct me if I'm wrong. I believe I put the end of it in ice water.

Jungle fowl are in the pheasant family yes>? incubation can be 22-28 days
here is a link for you what bator are you using and how old were the eggs?
https://buythermopro.com/guides/accurate-ways-to-calibrate-hygrometers/


the link is to the hygro thermos I use and always do well with them.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013BKDO8/?tag=backy-20

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Talked my hubby into going for a small hike the other day. Glad he came up. This canyon isn't far from us. It's called Mapleton Canyon. We used to live in that town of Mapleton. I would take our motorhome up there for about a month and a half to stay. Easy to drive back down into town. I would have grandkids come and stay a few days at a time. Our dogs were with us. Hubby stayed home during the week while he worked, came up after, and stayed on weekends. It's so pretty up there. I should have gotten photos of the surroundings. Just these of us and our Cooper. First time we've gone up without a Golden Retriever. What did we see hiking back down into the camping area? A golden Retriever. Aww...! His name was Gary..he he, love it. He had the big block head like my first Golden. He wanted to play with our little Cooper. lol...the lady says, that's interesting, we've passed other dogs on the trail and he didn't want to play. Our Cooper is a frisky one. If these two hadn't been on a leash, they would have been off. Anyway, memories..couldn't get a photo in our regular doggy photo spot...so much water! It was good to see. We went further up and sat on this log that's been there forever. Couldn't get to the big rock because of there being more water, and we weren't dressed for getting a bit wet. Again, that was good to see more water. The most we've seen in years! No drought this year! Hubby loves this little dog. . Here's us.. sitting..by..the water with our Cooper. Need to make it up there one more time this year. View attachment 1876918 View attachment 1876920

awww how priceless! Look how beautiful you still are! and so fit, both of you! sounds like a good time and yall should do it again soon! pack a lunch <3

 

[Cynthia12]

Thinking just that! Places with tables there....and, thank you for the compliment.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

FYI
Update complete: If you weren't aware Sumi removed it from education section a year or so ago and put in the member pages after they said it was messed up in the move. I have asked for it to be returned.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...hatching-chicken-eggs-aka-hatching-101.64195/

 

[Akrnaf2]

FYI
Update complete: If you weren't aware Sumi removed it from education section a year or so ago and put in the member pages after they said it was messed up in the move. I have asked for it to be returned.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...hatching-chicken-eggs-aka-hatching-101.64195/

Sally
How can I save it for easy access ?

 

[daxigait]

@ChickenCanoe
I hope you are well. I have been thinking of you all week as I deal with coons the last three mornings I've caught big full-grown Coons the first day at the end of last week I caught a little baby one where they were digging into the barn. Then when I moved it over by the chicken coop and set it up I've been catching 1 every day now. Three days in a row, bad deal. made worse by the fact that I lost my llama this week so I don't have a protector at the moment for my goats much less my chickens.

 

[daxigait]

I will have to read up on multi min because I never used it, is it costly and where is best place to buy, I assume injection? so only 2x a year? and bucks as well? Thanks!

I give it a month before breeding and a month before kidding. Yes it's expensive but it's only one CC per hundred lb so a bottle lasts a long time if you don't have huge numbers like I do. the rest of the year I just put out vitaferm and the local goat mineral so I keep both out there.
sorry I have not been ignoring you. I have just been crazy busy and preparing last night we met I'd half-a-dozen doze and I had another one to breed. on top of losing the lawn mower and vehicle problems and just general chores. sounds like life huh?
you can get it from your vet, or have your vet give you a script for either valley vet or Jeffers.
yes, it is an injection. and be prepared some of them don't react to it at all, but some of them will throw themselves on the ground and scream and push on it because it burns a bit. it seems to be more reactive with the boers most of my Nubians act like it's no big deal I have one dough that doesn't like it, but there 57 Bowers acted like it was going to kill them not really but they had a bit of a fit.

 

[daxigait]

hello everyone, school shopping for kids today, I need a loan. OMG how on earth can prices be raised so dang much but yet, no ones pay is increasing!!!! Its so dang frustrating, just grocery shopping alone is sky high, its just not making any sense!!!

it's because they continue to essentially print money through the fed their digitizing so you're not physically printing it but they're doing the same thing.