EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[minihorse927]

Got the nest box mostly done. Need to hang it in the chicken barn and I bought some polyurethane to do the front, sides, and top. Completely constructed of cedar grown and milled on our property

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

GOOD MORNING, COFFEE CREW! IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MORNING HERE IN FANTASY LAND! I HOPE EVERYONE THAT CAN READ THIS HAS A GREAT DAY! THE ONES THAT CAN'T READ THIS ARE OLD, AND WILL DIE SOON ANYWAY!

Thanks - Good morning!!!

Quote:

Quote: Exactly. The other two I knew were aspergill (because there's a common fungus that was named Aspergillus because it looks like an aspergill), and paludal (from some readings about malaria). Alas, I cannot otherwise attribute any to a particularly spectacular vocabulary... (all smoke and mirrors!)

Banty fill me in again on your insulation thickness etc? you did close the majority of those holes up yes?

@BantyChooks - I know diddly squat about homemade incubators, but it occurs to me - is this the one you cut a hole in the side of for viewing/candling during lockdown? If so, are the seals around that ok?

Just seen at the bird feeder:

This is hysterical...

@Sally Sunshine
I had to come in out of the blind to make this reply, since I still can't do it on the 'puter in the blind. I hope you appreciate the sacrifices I'm willing to make for you!

I just want to give you a heads-up.

I had one of those buildings like your dad gave you. I called mine the "paper building". They're not cheap, money-wise, when you factor in how long they last. Yes, they are thicker than a regular tarp, and UV doesn't deteriorate them as quickly, although mine didn't last long enough for UV to be a problem.

The big problem with them is wind.They'd probably work out o.k. in a location that's protected from strong winds, like next to a shed or a block building, on the lee side. Mine, however, was out in the open, away from any protecting solid structures, and the wind literally shredded it in a relatively short time.

I had one I used as an impromptu work area when building one of my coops. It was great until we had a storm. it was shredded, metal poles bent and twisted - I was glad no-one got hurt... (It gets windy here...)

Good morning everyone! I wanted to pop in and give a tip for anyone who's banking cookies but finds that their girls are all slackers and aren't getting any eggs. That was my morning anyway when I found no eggs after getting the south ask mixed up lol.

Gets an excellent substitute for eggs:

1 Tbsp ground flax
3 Tbsp water

Mix together and stick in the fridge for 5-10 minutes. Then you can just add it like your eggs. This recipe replaces 1 large egg so mix up as many as you need

Neat to know - thanks!!!

Being CPT for state of pa I am updated on whats going on in the poultry world.... if anyone cares to read what she sent today here is a pasted copy of my mail....

PRO/AH/EDR> Avian influenza (127): France, poultry, HPAI H5N8, spread, alarm, int. trade
Hanshaw, Nanette DVM, DACVPM
Chief, Animal Health Division PA Department of Agriculture Bureau of Animal Health

FW: PRO/AH/EDR> Avian influenza (127): France, poultry, HPAI H5N8, spread, alarm, int. trade
Hanshaw, Nanette DVM, DACVPM
Chief, Animal Health Division PA Department of Agriculture Bureau of Animal Health
Today, 12:44 PM
Good morning,
Please see the update on the European situation below.

Thank you,
Nan


Nan Hanshaw, DVM, DACVPM
Chief, Animal Health Division PA Department of Agriculture Bureau of Animal Health
2301 N Cameron St/Harrisburg PA 17110
Phone:717.783.6677/Fax:717.787.1868

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:03 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: PRO/AH/EDR> Avian influenza (127): France, poultry, HPAI H5N8, spread, alarm, int. trade


AVIAN INFLUENZA (127): FRANCE, POULTRY, HPAI H5N8, SPREAD, ALARM, INTERNATIONAL TRADE
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Date: Tue 6 Dec 2016
Source: France24 [edited]
<http://www.france24.com/en/20161206-all-france-placed-high-risk-restrictions-over-bird-flu>


France widened "high risk" restrictions to the entire country after the detection of several cases of the highly pathogenic H5N8 avian flu strain in farms in southwest France and in wild ducks in northern France, the farm ministry said [Tue 6 Dec 2016].

The decision was also motivated by the "rapid change in the ...
situation in France and in several European countries", the statement said.

The outbreak was detected [Thu 1 Dec 2016] on a duck farm in the southwestern Tarn region, the heart of the lucrative, though controversial, foie-gras industry.

It came just as a ban on exports outside Europe was about to be lifted in time for the crucial holiday period. Exports outside the European Union had been suspended after an outbreak a year ago, and producers were waiting for the green light -- which had been set for [Sat 10 Dec 2016] -- to resume shipments just in time for the Christmas holidays, when the delicacy is especially popular. Producers must now wait another 3 months for exports to resume, as long as no further cases are discovered.

The ministry, which said migratory birds were the likely source of the outbreak, announced later on [Tue 6 Dec 2016] a number of confirmed or suspected cases of bird flu in the southwestern regions of Gers, Hautes-Pyrenees and Lot-et-Garonne -- where ducks from the supplier of the Tarn farm had been transported -- leading to around 7000 further birds being culled. A further 4500 had died from illness.

A protection zone has been declared within a 3 km [approx. 1.86 mi] radius of the Tarn farm, as well as a 10 km [6.2 mi] surveillance zone.

French poultry farmers have been told to keep their flocks indoors or apply safety nets preventing contact with wild birds. Those who may not use confinement or safety nets because of animal welfare or quality requirements can ask to be exempted if they can prove sufficient biosecurity measures.

The H5N8 variant of bird flu, which also hit duck farmers in the Netherlands last month [Nov 2016], is highly infectious for poultry but poses little danger to humans.

The H5N1 strain, however, has killed more than 420 people, mainly in south-east Asia, since first appearing in 2003.

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[HPAI has already been reported from 14 European countries (Hungary, Poland, Croatia, Austria, Germany, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Russia, Finland, Romania, France, Serbia and possibly Ukraine). It also continues its spread in the Middle East (this week new outbreaks in Israel, circulating also in Egypt, Iran and possibly
Tunisia) and in southern Asia (India).

The HPAI H5N8 circulating viruses belong to the genetic clade 2.3.4.4 and share recent ancestry with Goose/Guangdong/96 lineage H5N8 HPAI viruses isolated in early June 2016 from wild birds in Tyva (Russia).
In the past, the detection of this AI lineage in wild birds in southern Russia represented a signal for an upcoming incursion into South Asia, Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. According to WHO, based on the limited information obtained to date, human infection with this strain cannot be excluded, although the likelihood is low.

It is expected that HPAI H5N8 will continue to spread during the winter months within and beyond the affected countries. - Mod.AS

A HealthMap/ProMED-mail map can be accessed at:
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[See Also:
Avian influenza (126): China (HK) wild bird, HPAI H5N6, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161206.4679422
Avian influenza (125): Israel (HD) poultry, HPAI H5N8, spread
http://promedmail.org/post/20161206.4678915
Avian influenza (124): France (LP) poultry, HPAI H5N8, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161203.4672976
Avian influenza (117): HPAI H5N8, UK NOT, corr
http://promedmail.org/post/20161201.4670309
Avian influenza (123): Tunisia (BZ) wild birds, HPAI H5, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161201.4670227
Avian influenza (122): Ukraine (KS) poultry, HPAI H5, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161130.4666645
Avian influenza (121): Egypt (DT) coot, HPAI H5N8, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161130.4666168
Avian influenza (120): Romania, HPAI H5N8, swan
http://promedmail.org/post/20161130.4665157
Avian influenza (119): Romania (CT) wildfowl, HPAI H5N8, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161130.4664106
Avian influenza (117): Netherlands, poultry; France, wildfowl, HPAI H5N8, OIE http://promedmail.org/post/20161129.4660667
Avian influenza (107): Iran (TE) HPAI H5N8, poultry, new strain, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161121.4644671
Avian influenza (101): Europe, wild birds, poultry, HPAI H5N8, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161114.4628999
Avian influenza (100): Israel (HZ) poultry HPAI H5N8, new strain, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161114.4628359
Avian influenza (99): Switzerland (VD) wild, India (KA) poultry, H5N8
http://promedmail.org/post/20161113.4626408
Avian influenza (98): Israel (HZ) poultry, H5N8, RFI
http://promedmail.org/post/20161113.4626107
Avian influenza (97): India (Punjab) poultry, H5N8, spread, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161111.462135
Avian influenza (96): Europe, wild birds, HPAI H5N8, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161110.4620229
Avian influenza (94): India (HR) poultry, H5N8, spread, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161110.4617396
Avian influenza (93): Switzerland, Austria, wildfowl, H5N8, Croatia, susp, RFI http://promedmail.org/post/20161110.4618279
Avian influenza (92): Germany (SH) wild birds, H5N8, 1st cases
http://promedmail.org/post/20161109.4617139
Avian influenza (91): Poland (ZP) wild, H5N8, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20161108.4614616
Avian influenza (90): India (KL) poultry, H5N8, OIE, (HR) poultry, susp, RFI http://promedmail.org/post/20161105.4609424
Avian influenza (89): Hungary (BE,CS) poultry, wild bird, HPAI H5N8, OIE http://promedmail.org/post/20161104.4608240
Avian influenza (86): India (KL) poultry, H5N8, 1st outbreak, RFI
http://promedmail.org/post/20161028.4591328
Avian influenza (82): India, Delhi zoo, H5N8, NOT H5N1
http://promedmail.org/post/20161021.4576300
Avian influenza (81): H5N1, India, Delhi zoo
http://promedmail.org/post/20161020.4573601
Avian influenza (79): Russia (TU) HPAI H5N8, migratory birds
http://promedmail.org/post/20161011.4551755
Avian influenza (77): United Arab Emirates (Abu Dhabi) poultry (quail) 1st case, susp http://promedmail.org/post/20161005.4537271
Avian influenza (74): Russia (TU) HPAI H5N8 2.3.4.4., wild bird, intl alert, FAO http://promedmail.org/post/20160920.4501532
Avian influenza (65): Taiwan, poultry, HPAI H5N8, spread
http://promedmail.org/post/20160725.4368474
Avian influenza (29): South Korea (KG) poultry, HPAI H5N8, OIE
http://promedmail.org/post/20160331.4130267
Avian influenza (28): South Korea (KG) poultry, HPAI H5N8
http://promedmail.org/post/20160329.4124502
2015
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Avian influenza (211): Taiwan (PT) poultry, HPAI H5N8, spread
http://promedmail.org/post/20151210.3854407
Avian influenza (168): global, H5 HPAI evolution, control, RFI
http://promedmail.org/post/20150704.3483531
Avian influenza (06): global, H5 evolution, new clade 2.3.4.4, WHO/OIE/FAO http://promedmail.org/post/20150114.3090250
Avian influenza (07): global, interaction with human viruses
http://promedmail.org/post/20150317.3237174
2014
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Avian influenza (117): Europe, HPAI H5N8 & H5N1, routes of spread
http://promedmail.org/post/20141227.3056665
Avian influenza (111): Europe, HPAI H5N8, EFSA scientific report http://promedmail.org/post/20141218.3040087]
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I subscribe to ProMed at work and see these. It's worrisome to watch a disease march its way across the landscape...

OK, I gotta run. See you guys later!

- Ant Farm

 

[BantyChooks]

  Thanks - Good morning!!! 



Exactly. The other two I knew were aspergill (because there's a common fungus that was named Aspergillus because it looks like an aspergill), and paludal (from some readings about malaria). Alas, I cannot otherwise attribute any to a particularly spectacular vocabulary... (all smoke and mirrors!)

@BantyChooks
 - I know diddly squat about homemade incubators, but it occurs to me - is this the one you cut a hole in the side of for viewing/candling during lockdown? If so, are the seals around that ok?

This is hysterical... 

I had one I used as an impromptu work area when building one of my coops. It was great until we had a storm. it was shredded, metal poles bent and twisted - I was glad no-one got hurt... (It gets windy here...)


Neat  to know - thanks!!!


I subscribe to ProMed at work and see these. It's worrisome to watch a disease march its way across the landscape...

Yes, the door slides in perfect.

 

[BantyChooks]

Hey, whites

 

[kwhites634]

Hey, whites

Overpriced, but good to see someone wants me

 

[BantyChooks]

Overpriced, but good to see someone wants me 

 

[BantyChooks]

 

[kwhites634]

Hey, whites

Overpriced, but good to see someone wants me

That switching back & forth between a g-o-rilla & a man's face wearing a watch cap. You find it or do it yourself?

 

[minihorse927]

now this is frightening

 

[ocap]

Quote:



I found the following story after a short "Google"



Lesson of the Plucked Chicken


During those final days of the collapsing Marxist experiment in the Soviet Union, Soviet novelist Chingiz Aitmatov retold the following story, which has been paraphrased here.
On one occasion, so it was narrated, Stalin called for a live chicken and proceeded to use it to make an unforgettable point before some of his henchmen. Forcefully clutching the chicken in one hand, with the other he began to systematically pluck out its feathers. As the chicken struggled in vain to escape, he continued with the painful denuding until the bird was completely stripped. “Now you watch,” Stalin said as he placed the chicken on the floor and walked away with some bread crumbs in his hand. Incredibly, the fear-crazed chicken hobbled toward him and clung to the legs of his trousers. Stalin threw a handful of grain to the bird, and it began to follow him around the room, he turned to his dumbfounded colleagues and said quietly, “This is the way to rule the people. Did you see how that chicken followed me for food, even though I had caused it such torture? People are like that chicken. If you inflict inordinate pain on them they will follow you for food the rest of their lives.”
Ravi Zacharias, Can Man Live Without God, (Word Publ., Dallas: 1994), pp. 26-27