EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[mlm Mike]

Time for lunch, then I should pretend that I work here. Have a wonderful Saturday.

 

[BantyChooks]

Time for lunch, then I should pretend that I work here. Have a wonderful Saturday. 

Toodles, mike

 

[Akrnaf2]

Babies drying out, still hoping the remaining eggs hatch. They are so tiny!

Lovely photography!

Awesome thread! Between this one and the original, I might be ready to incubate my own by the time I finish reading. XD

Welcome aboard!

 

[dan26552]

Two! And a pusher!

 

[microchick]

Hi everyone, I have a quick question. Next Saturday I will be putting my eggs in lock down. So far so good. 11 out of 11 are still viable and developing. It's getting harder to visualize anything in the darker brown eggs so I am strictly looking for air cell expansion in them.

My brooder is set up in our 'hobby room' a room accessible by two doors that can be closed to keep our dogs and cats at bay. The room is sunny, no drafts, etc. Presently my incubator is sitting on my kitchen counter top where I can keep an eye on things.

When I put the eggs into lock down, is it feasible, since I have the eggs out of the incubator at that time anyway in order to put the padding down for the chicks and do a final candling, to move the incubator to the family room and set it in the brooder (Brooder is 26 by 30 some inches) to make it easier to transfer dry chicks out of the incubator to ease crowding and yet keep the chicks nearby so unhatched babies can hear them or will the added heat from the brooder lights raise the incubator temp dangerously high?

 

[chicken hawk 33]

Day 19 now.

 

[vasher]

@dan26552 keets are so cute! but they grow up to be so ugly

@vasher what did yo uhatch? is it serama? very cute!

The top is a serama, the bottom is a quail. Feisty little buggers!

 

[Phage]

I wouldn't have consented to the c-section, but the doctor told me he wouldn't call the nicu to save my babies if I didn't sign the paperwork. baby A was head down and coming out - there was no medical reason to DO a c-section other than he wouldn't "let twins be born naturally." as a rule.

Had I been at any other hospital, I could have refused the c-section and they'd have saved my babies. But I was in a border hospital and the nicu team had to be flown in, and at 24 weeks, he could justify it by saying he thought they were younger and not viable.

That makes the doctor sound evil which seems pretty unlikely. Vaginal delivery is just extremely hard on very prem babies and they just don't make it out alive. That is why they do c-section.

People LOVE to go on and on about how bad doctors are like they don't care, are incompetent or want to make you suffer. But seriously, if you think about it they are generally not stupid, and does anyone believe that they would be doing their chosen career if they just wanted to make people's lives miserable? It is more than just a job for most. They sacrifice a lot.

And when people whine at how doctors "let" their 24 weeker die - you have to think this infant is only half the gestitational age it should be. It is a miracle that it breathes at all. The medical team is spending literally millions of getting these infants viable. Do they really not care if the kid lives or dies?

People expect modern medicine to give them what get want be it plastic surgery, organ transplantation or whatever, and when it does not turn out as perfect as imagined, or the body just can't "do it " it becomes someone's else's fault. People need to take some responsibility for their choices.

Sorry about the rant but you hear this EVERYWHERE.

 

[kajira]

That makes the doctor sound evil which seems pretty unlikely. Vaginal delivery is just extremely hard on very prem babies and they just don't make it out alive. That is why the do c-section.

People LOVE to go on and on about how bad doctors are like they don't care, are incompetent or want to make you suffer. But seriously, but if you think about it they are generally not stupid, and does anyone believe that they would be doing their chosen career if they just wanted to make people's lives miserable? It is more than just a job for most. They sacrifice a lot.

And when people whine at how doctors "let" their 24 weeker die - you have to think this infant is only half the gestitational age it should be. It is a miracle that it breathes at all. The medical team is spending literally millions of getting these infants viable. Do they really not care if the kid lives or dies?

People expect modern medicine to give them what get want be it plastic surgery, organ transplantation or whatever, and when it done not turn out as perfect as imagined, or the body just can't "do it " it becomes someone's else's fault. People need to take some responsibility for their choices.

Sorry about the rant but you hear this EVERYWHERE.

Every other doctor, said they'd have let the babies be born vaginally, because of the circumstances. He broke my water at 21 weeks, on accident. So baby A came out - but they MIGHT have been able to buy baby B, more time, had they been able to stop my labor after baby A came out.

Based on the doctors I talked too, at the hospital where fire ant works, actually... believe me, they would have handled it *very* differently. I don't believe in sueing - but this is the same doctor who broke my water, was the only doctor on call, refused to transfer me, and baby A was mostly out, and pushed baby A all the way back in, to pull him out the other way. They also gave me ketamine during my c-section, after they were told NOT too.

The only thing he did that was right, was the type of incision, and repair, so I could be a qualified vbac. Which every doctor also says he shouldn't have done, since it was "so unsafe" for babies. ^.^

It was my body, my choice, at 24 weeks, I would have rather risked vaginal delivery, since their survival rate was so low to begin with, rather then a super invasieve surgery... and had I consented to just "letting them die" with no nicu team, he'd have allowed it... but since I wanted him to call the nicu team, he put me between a rock and hard place. I couldn't get help unless I signed the paperwork.

I HAD no choice - believe me. Had I been at ANY other hospital, I would have been allowed to make different choice - I wanted my babies saved, and chose to make a decision that goes against everything I believed in, to have it happen.

For what it's worth, when I wanted a ultrasound, of my cervix, while pregnant with my twins - because I had a history of a short cervix in a prior birth, he told me and I quote "I trust my fingers, more than ultrasounds, if you want to be my patient, you'll have to consent to let me check you the old fashioned way." When I told him I wasn't really okay with that, he told me "good luck finding any other local doctor who will take on twins then."

No other doctor here does twins. I had a midwife for the birth I was talking too - because I wanted to do a vaginal homebirth with twins. I prefer midwifery care.

For what it's worth, my husband delivered our vbac, because I was so scared of going to the hospital, I waited too long.

Also - my first hospital birth? They almost killed me in a teaching hospital because of a couple small errors during the labor process, because they induced me.

So, my fears are justifiable, and I still see high risk specialists, follow my doctors orders I trust, and it's why I travel 6+ hours round trip, to see doctors who aren't crap.

 

[Phage]

Kaj this was not meant to be focused on your case as everyone is different and I am truly saddened by your loss. I do know what it is like.

It was just a general statement that is is frustrating how people love to "doctor bash" when things don't turn out as hoped.