Quote: The lowest dip if the egg is upright will fill with any existing water, with some eggs being much sloppier inside than others. So, you are telling me to lay them flat, or suffer the consequences, yes???
Family is fine. I'm in a new phase of my life. Hint: Recently painted one room and turned it into an office, and we now have a guest room (alias incubator room). Sorry you're still on lifting restrictions. I'd be milking it if I were you! (JK. that makes for a very long and boring day.)
I am in a vacation, passover is next week and that is wonderful
But I still suffering from my back and that is lousy!
But in general it is very good.
Thank you!
Quote: The lowest dip if the egg is upright will fill with any existing water, with some eggs being much sloppier inside than others. So, you are telling me to lay them flat, or suffer the consequences, yes???
Family is fine. I'm in a new phase of my life. Hint: Recently painted one room and turned it into an office, and we now have a guest room (alias incubator room). Sorry you're still on lifting restrictions. I'd be milking it if I were you! (JK. that makes for a very long and boring day.)
I know I should be milking it!!! I am so happy for you! I hope all goes well!! and guest chickens or ducks?
orizontal for hatch lowest dip upright if sloshy eggs yah. You have incubated plenty you know if you see water slosh wiggle in them. otherwise I dont think it hurts either way. BUT can I tell you something? I will anyways...
I do keep shipped eggs upright until day 10 or 12, I never lay horizontal before that as I have found I get many DIS if I lay horizontal after starting them upright before day 10-12. NOW the reasons I personally lay sideways and not upright is because of the CAM. If you have incubated already in both directions you will find, when you start incubation horizontal the embryo is typically towards the side middle of the egg, and if you set upright you will notice that the embryos are typically at the top of the egg near the air cell. Now sometimes we can have issues with that CAM reaching the bottom of the egg so by incubating on the side that CAM has a better chance in reaching everywhere inside the egg. (most commonly CAM issues are noted in SHIPPED eggs VIA candling the bottom of the eggs) thats my story and I stick too it, also I believe hand turning horizontal eggs makes for tougher stronger embryos.
I think this has more info on the CAM if you care to read up on it! CAM doesnt reach bottom of the egg, egg seems empty at bottom during candle!post #22178
need to see this in a clinical study or figure out how to read these references! Dekalb Hatchery Manual. 1990. Dekalb, Ill.: Dekalb Poultry Research Veterinary and Technical Services. Improving Hatchability, Taylor, Gib. 1994, Medina, Ohio: Chick Master Incubator Company.
Originally Posted by cochins1088
Ok, here's my goose egg. I'm 100% sure that it's on day 27 so it should hatch within the next 3 days. Temperatuers ran a steady 99.5 degrees checked using 5 different thermometers. Air cell development is perfect and I checked it by weighing the egg weekly. The emrbyo is also very active.
I will do anything to get this egg to hatch, so if you have any advice, please share. This egg doesn't look like it's ready to hatch.
Here's a top view. It looks normal, but there is more space in the small end of the egg.
Here's the clear spot in the small end of the egg that I was talking about. The inner membrane with blood vessels never reached it. The spot is stationary and does not move when I turn the egg.
Here's a better picture. You can see the clear spot, the membrane with the blood vessels, and then the dark area is the embryo.
Here is the membrane from freshly hatched White Faced Spanish
see how the membrane has the veins in it outer near shell ??
CAM aka chorioallantoic membrane
they are not that big in this photo, but you get the idea, you just have tons of tiny veining in those eggs, and you can easily see they have no more blood it they do its been dried inside.