EE lethargic with diarrhea

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by fluter, Nov 15, 2009.

  1. fluter

    fluter New Egg

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    1) What type of bird , age and weight - EE pullet, 15 weeks, don't know weight, but she's always been about 10% smaller than her broodmate (is that the right term?)
    2) What is the behavior, exactly - very lethargic, unsteady on her legs since Wednesday. Has gotten progressively more lethargic, and today won't eat nor drink. Doesn't appear to be congested, but has her beak slightly open for the past 2 days. Four times she has let out a hoarse squawk - similar to a donkey bray. Normally, I don't hear any sounds from her. I separated her from my three other birds last night, but previous three days she didn't sleep on the roost pole, but on the floor underneath the three other birds that were roosting.
    3) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma. No other sign of trauma.
    4) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation. I have no clue.
    5) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all. Until Wednesday, Nutrena grower/finisher crumbles, with scratch in the morning and grapes at night. Free range in my backyard during the day. Thursday I added white rice with yogurt and added ACV to water. She ate Thursday, less Friday some Saturday morning, but nothing Saturday night. Today she isn't eating or drinking at all.
    6) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc. Yellow, very watery poop left in the shavings underneath where she's laying. When I brought her into the house this morning, I examined her vent and she had a lot of sticky, gummy yellow and white buildup under her tail which I've now washed off her. No blood anywhere.
    7) What has been the treatment you have administered so far? Withdrew scratch, started giving her a few drops of Polyvisol of her beak twice a day, added ACV to water, changed feed to white rice and plain yogurt.
    8 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet? I would like to treat her myself. Am thinking I will give her Pedialyte today since she isn't eating, but she did just take some water from a dropper so I may have luck with Pedialyte
    9) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
    10) Describe the housing/bedding in use. Before Saturday - in a two story coop with wood shavings under roost, dirt floor, diatemaceous earth sprinkled weekly, wood shavings changed every two days and dirt floor raked every two days. Saturday - separated her into a dog crate with deep wood shavings in backyard since she still seemed to want to be around the rest of the flock (and they wanted to be around her - they spent most of the day running to the coop, peeking in, perching on top) but I was afraid she was expending too much energy being out of the coop, trying to follow the flock around the yard. I'm also concerned about this spreading to the other girls, but they all seem healthy and energetic as always. I've brought her into the house today since she is weaker, and I want to keep her warm after washing her butt. I also plan to give her Pedialyte via eye dropper several times today.

    Can you please help me save my little EE?

    I waited too long...my little EE died while I was at the store buying Pedialyte. Any suggestions you have about what to look for in my remaining chickens would be appreciated. I will scrub out their coop today in case it's something infectious.
     
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  2. ranchhand

    ranchhand Rest in Peace 1956-2011

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    Sorry about the loss and also for the fact that your post got shoved out of sight by all the frivolous stuff.

    From the poop description and the age, I would guess maybe she was eggbound or laying internally. A bit early to be laying, but I have had several EEs start at barely 16 weeks.
    A search here for eggbound and internal laying will give you a lot of information, should it happen again.

    Once again, sorry for the loss and welcome to BYC.
     
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  3. hen-thusiast

    hen-thusiast Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 8, 2009
    Utah
    [​IMG] Sorry for the loss. ranchhand knows way more than me about things, but I was wondering if it might have been worms? It would make sense that she's smaller and the worm load could have hit her harder. Have you wormed? That might be something to consider. I'd say worms or something went wrong when she reached point of lay.
     
  4. M To The Maxx

    M To The Maxx Baseball+Girls=Life

    Jul 24, 2009
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    Sorry for your loss. [​IMG]
     
  5. PandoraTaylor

    PandoraTaylor RT Poultry n Things

    Jun 29, 2009
    Alaska
    Sorry for your loss.
    You could have her Necroscopy to find out for sure what it was.
     

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