EE or Ameraucana?

[The Moonshiner]

All I know is when I mix two leghorns of different varieties I do usually refer to the mixed color offspring as Easter Eggers.

 

[nicalandia]

All I know is when I mix two leghorns of different varieties I do usually refer to the mixed color offspring as Easter Eggers.

Why would you do such a thing? They would never lay anything remotely colored, their eggs are as pale as dried bone.

You could argue that All EEs are Mutts of some kind but not all Mutts are EEs.

 

[ColtHandorf]

And here I thought I was alone in this world... Except I don't use Memes

Have to make it relevant for the kids. They don't like reading. Lol, I work in a Marketing Department, and I've seen it demonstrated countless times here. Someone asks a question, I answer and then get told they aren't going to read the post to get the answer because it is too long.

All I know is when I mix two leghorns of different varieties I do usually refer to the mixed color offspring as Easter Eggers.

Really? Two different varieties of Leghorns crossed as part of a project to develop a new variety of Leghorn, and you call them Easter Eggers? Why not non-standard Leghorns? The reason I don't call my Orps an EE is that they lay a brown egg. None of them carry a gene for colored eggs, so a buyer wouldn't even have the possibility of getting a poo green egg from them.

Why would you do such a thing? They would never lay anything remotely colored, their eggs are as pale as dried bone.

You could argue that All EEs are Mutts of some kind but not all Mutts are EEs.

What a lovely simile, "pale as dried bone." Anyway, I would also agree with your last statement. All EEs are mutts, but not all mutts are EEs as it is my understanding that in the loosest of terms, Easter Eggers are "glorified" mutts that have the potential to carry the blue egg gene and therefore have the possibility of laying (or producing females that lay in the case of males) a broad spectrum of egg colors and that due to their heritage, they often have muffs, beards, or pea combs. Although, with the addition of Cream Crested Legbars, newer crosses may have crests as well.

 

[The Moonshiner]

EEs aren't a breed. There's no standard. There's nothing they have to have or can't have. They're allowed to lay white eggs or any other color eggs.
It's just a next to useless label at this point and I'd argue that there's nothing that would eliminate any mutt from qualifying to use the EE name.

 

[ColtHandorf]

EEs aren't a breed. There's no standard. There's nothing they have to have or can't have. They're allowed to lay white eggs or any other color eggs.
It's just a next to useless label at this point and I'd argue that there's nothing that would eliminate any mutt from qualifying to use the EE name.

Huh...

I'd also agree the term is useless. Especially when people want to start coining terms like "Olive Egger" and the like to describe shades of the egg, like it's a breed. That annoys the mess out of me.

I've had EEs before, and what people now call OE.

But I don't think I'd personally label a bird an EE if I knew there was no way the bird could lay a "fun" colored egg, like blue or green. The perception of the public is that an EE is basically the poor man's Ameraucana. The birds all come out looking different and egg color is all over the place which is fun for them, whereas Ameraucanas are much more costly, have little to no variation within a variety, and all lay a pretty consistent blue egg. People online are always disappointed when they gamble on a pretty egg from a mutt called an EE and get a bird that lays brown.

That is something I think that gets lost too. In the effort to make Ameraucana and Araucana stand apart from mutts that lay colored eggs, assigning them the name Easter Egger implies that it is a breed, and not just a cross-bred chicken between any number of varieties that may or may not lay a blue/green egg. Easter Egger should really describe the egg and not the chicken. In my opinion anyway.

 

[nicalandia]

It's just a next to useless label at this point and I'd argue that there's nothing that would eliminate any mutt from qualifying to use the EE name.

You are one of the Smartest poster here, yet your Argument is so weak, I wonder if you are just EE shaming?

 

[JacinLarkwell]

You could argue that All EEs are Mutts of some kind but not all Mutts are EEs.

This is my logic usually.

I think I get it now, thanks everyone for explaining it more

 

[ColtHandorf]

You are one of the Smartest poster here, yet your Argument is so weak, I wonder if you are just EE shaming?

I don't think it's EE shaming, which is ridiculous in and of itself. There are much more important things in life than getting upset about chickens and being educated when someone calls them something they are not. It's not shaming, it's educating. I must admit I thoroughly enjoy watching Billy Joe Bob and Bobbie Joe selling EE and calling them Ameraucana and getting schooled by dozens of people who have taken the time to research and educate themselves on what the breed should look like.

Nothing is more irritating than for someone to post a picture of a bird online and everyone starts screaming whatever the new fad/trend breed is. All black chickens must be Ayam Cemani. All black birds with muffs or a beard or any red leakage are Olive Eggers. Anything that's barred with a partial crest is a Cream Crested Legbar. Lays a dark egg? Definitely a Marans. Any bird with blue or red? Blue-laced Red Wyandotte. Any bird with feathered feet? Cochin.

This is my logic usually.

I think I get it now, thanks everyone for explaining it more

Hopefully, it made sense.

 

[Painted Calls]

Lots of good points and opinions here. I guess for me, I see it this way...

I do not use the term EE for any mixed breed that may lay a colored egg. If the bird came from a hatchery (or lineage is known) as an "Americana" or EE, then I'll call it an EE. If it has a pea comb, willow legs, and a beard/muffs - I'll call it an EE.

I also think the term EE gets used way too much. It's sort of become a catch all for what I'd just call a mixed breed.

Now with all the new hatchery mixes popping up that are geared toward colored eggs.... Those I just blanket with the term "hatchery egger".

 

[TheOddOneOut]

You are one of the Smartest poster here, yet your Argument is so weak, I wonder if you are just EE shaming?

EE shaming? Only people who are low enough to insult other people’s birds on the basis of genes would do that.

So no, Moony is not EE shaming.
He’s stating EEs are mutts, which they are.
Not one line in his post said “EEs suck because they’re not purebred.”