EE or Ameraucana?

[ColtHandorf]

I love that it "wears tufts of feathers on its neck." Older writing like this is always a treat. Great Expectations...not so much.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Did we just make it all the way back around to saying the birds were Araucanas and the term EE came about after the Ameraucana Club dubbed non-standardized birds as Easter Eggers?

IDK?

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Did we just make it all the way back around to saying the birds were Araucanas and the term EE came about after the Ameraucana Club dubbed non-standardized birds as Easter Eggers?

I think so?

 

[The Moonshiner]

So we can go back to only calling birds that HAVE the blue egg gene EEs?

 

[nicalandia]

Did we just make it all the way back around to saying the birds were Araucanas and the term EE came about after the Ameraucana Club dubbed non-standardized birds as Easter Eggers?

I am going to indulge in Semantics here as well:

Doctor Bustos birds(late 1800s to 1924s) were actually named Collonca de Aretes, Officially the Araucana name in the USA was accepted on 1976,

for some reason the ones that made it to the USA after the 1940s mongrolized and the well defined phenotype that Doctor Bustos worked was nearly lost, so technically anything that was sold by hatcheries(not being worked with a purpose) before 1976 were EEs, even if retroactively applied to them when the term became more popular or used on non standard Ameraucanas/Araucanas, while the term Easter Egg chickens is quite older than both SOP entrance of both breed(Araucana and Ameraucana) it was rarely used to describe mongrels as it is now a days since way back then there was no Standard(or it has been lost since 1925).


Also the Term Araucana was used thinking that these birds came from the native Arauca region and raised by the Mapuche natives form Chile, but it was Doctor Bustos work(at leas the phenotype, rumpless and with tuffs), that combined Colloncas with Qetro. So I am not going to call Dr. Bustos birds EEs since he was breeding them with a purpose and their name are Collonca(Rumpless meaning in Chile), but anything not bred with a purpose from 1940s to 1975 were not Araucanas by any standard of the word.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

So we can go back to only calling birds that HAVE the blue egg gene EEs?

Guess half the hatchery EEs then ate something else

 

[The Moonshiner]

So we shouldn't call the birds before 1976 Araucana because it wasn't an "officially " recognized name before then?
So I'm assuming when the breed was accepted by the APA that the name then became "official"?
But it's OK to call them EEs which have never been accepted as a breed so therfore isn't official even to this day?
That IMO is one of the dumbest things I've heard.

 

[nicalandia]

But it's OK to call them EEs which have never been accepted as a breed so therfore isn't official even to this day?
That IMO is one of the dumbest things I've heard.

EEs by definition is a non-standard blue eggers and would never be accepted.

 

[The Moonshiner]

I get it now.

 

[nicalandia]

I get it now.

I am done arguing semantics.

The term Araucanas is much older than EEs(even if not officially accepted in the USA by 1976)

You can clearly see the phenotype set by Dr. Rubén Bustos Sepúlveda (1862-1928) on The National Geographic April 1920 volume, even if their name was Collonca de Aretes way back then, people around the world new them as Araucana, yes in the USA they got intermixed with god knows what breed(the hen on the National Geographic of September 1948 had clearly lost the phenotype) they were sold as Araucana and the Easter Egger term is a modern term(circa 1980s) to described non standard Ameraucanas/Araucanas that term has been retroactively applied(even by breeders of the original Ameraucana) to non standard Araucanas that were bred and sold by hatcheries at the time Ameraucanas were being created.


Just don't call your non-standard Leghorns EEs(I mean you can call them whatever you want, but you are going to be factually incorrect)