Egg cells slant good but no signs of movement

[DylansMom]

Egg #3 did not make it... I was unsure how to help him out as he was malpositioned

But the first two are good..
Here's #1

Adorable!

Sorry about #3, but at least these 2 will keep each other company.

 

[critters]

Still have 4 eggs left yet 2 should be hatching or hatched but have not and the last two, eggs 6&7 are several days or more behind the others... Their slant has just begun...

 

[RubyNala97]

Still have 4 eggs left yet 2 should be hatching or hatched but have not and the last two, eggs 6&7 are several days or more behind the others... Their slant has just begun...

I loved reading about your hatch and seeing the pictures!! I have six eggs due to hatch in 9 days. How many did you have to assist? Any more pips? When you candled you could see the internal pips? So cool!!

 

[critters]

Candled eggs and egg4 had yellow type color at slants edge so cracked open air sack end and chick was dead... The membrane was clear like with spidery vein but no breathing.
IDK...
Egg 5 .. Has orange coloring at slants edge with very faint veining and I see no signs of movement or no sounds of pipping... Sunday was day 28 for this egg...
Eggs 6&7 have a slighter increase in their slants but again I hear or see nothing and they were laid into the nest after the hen started sitting so don't have a due date...
Ok so I've helped 2 of 3 eggs and 1 died anyway..malpositioned. Egg 4 died in shell leaving eggs 5,6& 7 and will probably crack into egg 5 if yall think I should? Eggs 6&7 believe need a few more days?? Ugh! Hate waiting and not knowing...

 

[critters]

Cracked into egg 5 and the membrane against the shell where his beak was resting was yellowed...I could see this when I pulled the shell away from just that point so...
I freed his head and a wing very slowly last night and this morning he is almost free of his shell but appears weak... Hopefully just resting building up strength but I'm leaving him alone to do what he needs in hopes that he makes it...
Egg 6 has its first sign of pipping, a small external crack in its shell but slanting is minimal and egg 7 doesn't have much change to its slant but maybe it will follow in a day or two?

 

[RubyNala97]

Cracked into egg 5 and the membrane against the shell where his beak was resting was yellowed...I could see this when I pulled the shell away from just that point so...
I freed his head and a wing very slowly last night and this morning he is almost free of his shell but appears weak... Hopefully just resting building up strength but I'm leaving him alone to do what he needs in hopes that he makes it...
Egg 6 has its first sign of pipping, a small external crack in its shell but slanting is minimal and egg 7 doesn't have much change to its slant but maybe it will follow in a day or two?

I have successfully hatched chicken eggs before but not peas. Can you explain the "slanting" you are talking about? Does it mean the air cell has or is drawing down? Also, it seems like most peas need assistance to hatch, is this true? How do you know when is the right time to assist??? Thank you.

 

[critters]

I have successfully hatched chicken eggs before but not peas. Can you explain the "slanting" you are talking about? Does it mean the air cell has or is drawing down? Also, it seems like most peas need assistance to hatch, is this true? How do you know when is the right time to assist??? Thank you.

Yeah the slanting is where the air cell is drawing down and if what I think is so then the highest point is like the back area of the chick and the lowest point is a point the zipping starts at or near...where I look for signs of pipping so I don't have to pick up the egg and generally the higher point is where I left the egg to rest for the chick to get set up to make its entrance.
I don't know if more pea eggs need assistance or not as this is only my second year trying to hatch peafowl myself but so far for me it seems to be true..?.. I also raise guineas, ducks, chickens and may have only helped once or twice with all of them.
I look here to the forum to help me decide when to assist but when I get no response and feel maybe something should be done I go by the coloring at the point the air sack and the chick area of slant meet.... I believe that when I candle and see an yellow color that they are dead...orange reddish with veining leave alone but if the veining is faint or I don't see any veining then again he might need help...
If I crack into the air cell and see the membrane is white then I figure the chick is prob ok but if the membrane is clear with spidery veining (either brownish or red veins) then the chick might be dead or I need to find its beak right away and let it get air if it is to have a chance if it has not already died...
A lot of 'If's' and 'maybe I should haves..' So that always makes me feel bad if they don't make it but again several would not have made it if I had done nothing at all...
Again no expert here by any means but learning as I go along with the help of many on this forum with their vast experience and my trial and error and second guesses...
Anyone that has more knowledge than me please chime in and correct anything I've said above to make it right ...thanks

 

[critters]

Egg 5 keet died and keet 6 seems very very weak... Would be surprised if he makes it...
Slanting on egg 7 has increased... Not holding my breathe as it's just so disappointing when they die and I do all I know how...
I'm grateful I have two that have survived!
Guess I'll see if the last one makes an appearance... Wish I could save egg 6 but it doesn't look good.

 

[RubyNala97]

Yeah the slanting is where the air cell is drawing down and if what I think is so then the highest point is like the back area of the chick and the lowest point is a point the zipping starts at or near...where I look for signs of pipping so I don't have to pick up the egg and generally the higher point is where I left the egg to rest for the chick to get set up to make its entrance.
I don't know if more pea eggs need assistance or not as this is only my second year trying to hatch peafowl myself but so far for me it seems to be true..?.. I also raise guineas, ducks, chickens and may have only helped once or twice with all of them.
I look here to the forum to help me decide when to assist but when I get no response and feel maybe something should be done I go by the coloring at the point the air sack and the chick area of slant meet.... I believe that when I candle and see an yellow color that they are dead...orange reddish with veining leave alone but if the veining is faint or I don't see any veining then again he might need help...
If I crack into the air cell and see the membrane is white then I figure the chick is prob ok but if the membrane is clear with spidery veining (either brownish or red veins) then the chick might be dead or I need to find its beak right away and let it get air if it is to have a chance if it has not already died...
A lot of 'If's' and 'maybe I should haves..' So that always makes me feel bad if they don't make it but again several would not have made it if I had done nothing at all...
Again no expert here by any means but learning as I go along with the help of many on this forum with their vast experience and my trial and error and second guesses...
Anyone that has more knowledge than me please chime in and correct anything I've said above to make it right ...thanks

I didn't get a chance to say thank you for this post. I know what you mean about the uncertainties. I will definetly stay close to BYC when my start hatching. I'm one week away!! I hope you still get another hatch! I'm really hoping that at least mine pip on their own!! Fingers crossed for both of us!

 

[critters]

RubyNala97 best of luck on your upcoming hatch...