Eggs died after day 17, malpositioned (warning necropsy photos)

Altairsky

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I had 6 out of 9 eggs hatch. At day 17 I candled and everything was looking great.
Sadly 3 eggs didn't hatch.
Many chicks pipped on the side of the egg and not in the aircell. One nicked a blood vessel, and the blood cloth got him stuck to the membrane - though I noticed the issue and successfully helped.
I did a necropsy on the dead eggs. All the chicks had their beak on the side of the egg and not in the air cell.
One chick, fully formed and with the yolk fully absorbed had his head above his wing. I'm very sad for this one because it was from a cracked egg and he was wiggling a lot on day 18. If I helped back then, but how could I know.
In this video you can see him wiggling, and if you look closely you can see the spider-like cracks on the shell.
The second chick died a bit earlier. he had blood vessels and yolk to absorb. Head under wing but facing the side of the egg and far away from the aircell.
Last egg was behind, probably died on day 17. I didn't want to open that foul looking soup lol.
Of the chicks that hatched (6) as I said above one got stuck but I assisted, and another one got a splay leg (fixed).
Anyone knows what causes so many chicks to pip on the side of the egg? No internal pipping at all? Out of 9 eggs, only 3 had a correct pip.
 

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Oh and I counted from day 0 and on day 18 I had the first pip. On day 20 everything alive had already hatched.
I did the necropsy on day 21.
Maybe temperature too high? I had 3 thermometers (1 calibrated and the other 2 in agreement +-0.1°C)
Temperatures varied between 37.3 and 38.3, with an average of 37.7°C
 
I had 6 out of 9 eggs hatch. At day 17 I candled and everything was looking great.
Sadly 3 eggs didn't hatch.
Many chicks pipped on the side of the egg and not in the aircell. One nicked a blood vessel, and the blood cloth got him stuck to the membrane - though I noticed the issue and successfully helped.
I did a necropsy on the dead eggs. All the chicks had their beak on the side of the egg and not in the air cell.
One chick, fully formed and with the yolk fully absorbed had his head above his wing. I'm very sad for this one because it was from a cracked egg and he was wiggling a lot on day 18. If I helped back then, but how could I know.
In this video you can see him wiggling, and if you look closely you can see the spider-like cracks on the shell.
The second chick died a bit earlier. he had blood vessels and yolk to absorb. Head under wing but facing the side of the egg and far away from the aircell.
Last egg was behind, probably died on day 17. I didn't want to open that foul looking soup lol.
Of the chicks that hatched (6) as I said above one got stuck but I assisted, and another one got a splay leg (fixed).
Anyone knows what causes so many chicks to pip on the side of the egg? No internal pipping at all? Out of 9 eggs, only 3 had a correct pip.
how were the eggs stored before/ during incubation?
 
Eggs were 5 days old when I started incubating them, stored at room temperature. They had the aircell side up during storage, and they were laying on their side during incubation. The eggs were turned by rolling them around 180°, from a minimum of 5 to a maximum of 10 times a day. They were not turned during the night.
No need to open the incubator to turn the eggs, I only had to push a grid back and forth.
I opened the incubator twice to candle them, once at 7 day, the other at 17 days.
The 6 araucana eggs were not shipped, but I got them from a local farmer. 4 legbar eggs were purchased at a fair and I drove them home for around 100 miles. I think those 4 eggs counts as shipped eggs, in fact I got 50% hatch rate on those ones and the embryos died early.
 

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Eggs were 5 days old when I started incubating them, stored at room temperature. They had the aircell side up during storage, and they were laying on their side during incubation. The eggs were turned by rolling them around 180°, from a minimum of 5 to a maximum of 10 times a day. They were not turned during the night.
No need to open the incubator to turn the eggs, I only had to push a grid back and forth.
I opened the incubator twice to candle them, once at 7 day, the other at 17 days.
The 6 araucana eggs were not shipped, but I got them from a local farmer. 4 legbar eggs were purchased at a fair and I drove them home for around 100 miles. I think those 4 eggs counts as shipped eggs, in fact I got 50% hatch rate on those ones and the embryos died early.
huh. well sometimes life just sucks. I recently had 14 of my chickens eaten by a fox, so things could be worse. good luck on your next chicken adventure though.
 
huh. well sometimes life just sucks. I recently had 14 of my chickens eaten by a fox, so things could be worse. good luck on your next chicken adventure though.
We had a nasty hungry fox the first or maybe second year we had our girls. We put up a 150ft perimeter fence around their grazing area for protection. After I eliminated the fox. They have their coop to sleep/lay in, a run with a tarp on the roof for the weather and a door we can close in case there becomes a safety issue, hawks are only another issue we've had. but a full grassed and sandy yard for "free ranging" and dirt baths. And now we are breeding as well. The fact that we always have 4 roosters, minimum, who don't get into fights tells me this works.

What brought me here is the fact I have some hatching and I just went to check on them, and one has pipped through the side and I have yolk running out of it. I am trying to see what, if anything, I can do or should do.
 
There is nothing you can do right now, as long as he can breath through the hole he should be fine, however be prepared to help it in a few hours (12-20) because the yolk will most likely act as glue and make it impossible for the chick to zip.
One of mine hit a blood vessel and the dried blood got it stuck to the egg and I had to help.
 
We had a nasty hungry fox the first or maybe second year we had our girls. We put up a 150ft perimeter fence around their grazing area for protection. After I eliminated the fox. They have their coop to sleep/lay in, a run with a tarp on the roof for the weather and a door we can close in case there becomes a safety issue, hawks are only another issue we've had. but a full grassed and sandy yard for "free ranging" and dirt baths. And now we are breeding as well. The fact that we always have 4 roosters, minimum, who don't get into fights tells me this works.

What brought me here is the fact I have some hatching and I just went to check on them, and one has pipped through the side and I have yolk running out of it. I am trying to see what, if anything, I can do or should do.
Yolk? Do you have any vitamins? If they hatch, they will need to make up the lost nutrients. I’ve only ever had one broken yolk baby, and sadly it only lived a few days.
 

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