electric fencing, anyone?

I haven't read the whole thread and I'm tired so if I'm just repeating others, ignore me and tell me to go to bed.
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Birds won't get zapped unless they are touching something else at the same time they come in contact with a live wire. Something has to ground it for the current to come full circle and zap.

You've got to keep stuff (branches, weeds, grass) off of the fence. Some chargers are rated to "charge through wet weeds and grass", but it's only a matter of time before having too much junk on it burns up your box.

Get a lightening protector thingy.

I don't remember the numbers, but our fencer is rated for something like a zillion miles and I've got 3 copper ground rods sunk 8 feet (yeah, and I drove them in the ground myself. The bionic woman didn't have nuthin' on me....'till I couldn't get out of bed the next day
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). Translation: Will light you up. Ask my husband, he likes to grab onto it every now and again, just to "test" it. I can't repeat what comes out of his mouth when he does this. Only a man would do this more than once. Anyway, my point to this is I've seen my chickens squeeze through. They usually only do it once (or twice, to come back through if they want to badly enough) but I've never seen them harmed. And I don't worry about neighbor kids touching it. If they make it that far, they deserve it. (ETA: I did just read your first post, and that your neighbor has a small child. OK, I'm not that mean. I would watch out for a small child)

Ok, I'm going to bed now, I've become the crotchety mean lady up on the hill!
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Oh, and I don't know what you are using this fence for, but I've got a wily Nigerian doe who listens for the clicks made by the pulses of electricity and then she squeezes through the fence between pulses, so she can escape without the tingle. I didn't think anything could outwit my juiced-up fence 'till that.
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The best thing you can do, since I see you live in Knoxville is go to the Co-op on Fountain Valley Drive right behind the Stockyard and they can fix you up with everything you need and they know what you will need (good people). Also if you need it repaired they can do that too. With electric fencing, it has to be working 24-7 so if the charger goes down you have no fence sortta speak! They will find out very quick too! Best thing is visit the Co-op.
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Look for one or two black caps somewhere on your unit. If you find them there is a fuse under each cap, twist the caps to remove. Check fuses, they are very low amp. Replace with same amp fuse. Be sure and unplug controller when checking.
We've used elect fences for horses and donkey's for over 35 years and I'll tell you that they used to get better with each new model. Not any more!!!
As far as the birds being killed by an elect fence the only way I've ever seen this is when one would sit on the fence and peck at the insulator. Haven't seen this in years, not since they stopped making the ins. from red plastic. For some reason humming birds liked the red, I suppose thinking they were flowers and stick their beak in the small space between the metal post and the ins.
 
you should have started the post with,,,,, For those who have actually fenced in more than a backyard in town.

Go to a TSC or Agway and talk to someone who can show you whats what.

Don't worry about the neighbors kid, tell them and hang the ribbon,,,, I was 3 and knew any fence would shock or cut me, they have a purpose and it is not for kids to climb!!!! I would fear for my life if I went home and said I got shocked on someones fence,,,, I HAD NO BUISNESS BEING NEAR IT...

Take care of you and yours, the worrys stop at the property line.
 
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That makes sense about the birds! Thanks for the explanation. That would also explain how the raccoon got zapped, because it was perched in one spot, and reaching for another.

Also, my old stallion used to do the SAME THING as your doe with the fence clicking noise!! 10 acres of fence, but he would patrol it regularly looking for a weak spot. And then, when his hearing went bad, he took to getting as cloooooose to the hot-wire as he could with just the whiskers on his nose, so that he could feel a charge in the air. Let me tell you, if that fence EVER went out, he let us know before anything else did. Reminds me of those raptors in Jurassic Park ("Clever girls!").
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I would never keep a stallion without electric fence.
 
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Yikes. The grounds don't HAVE to be sunk that deep, do they? Ain't no way I can sink mine more than a few inches, if that.

Anyway, my point to this is I've seen my chickens squeeze through. They usually only do it once (or twice, to come back through if they want to badly enough) but I've never seen them harmed.

Ahh, thanks!

And I don't worry about neighbor kids touching it. If they make it that far, they deserve it. (ETA: I did just read your first post, and that your neighbor has a small child. OK, I'm not that mean. I would watch out for a small child)

I wouldn't worry so much, except that it will be on the property line. Yes, the fence is actually 6" inside my property, so the wire would technically be on my land -- but I don't expect a little kid to understand that concept! I bet the kid's parents could even sue on the basis of "attractive nuisance" if he managed to shock himself.
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Oh, and I don't know what you are using this fence for, but I've got a wily Nigerian doe who listens for the clicks made by the pulses of electricity and then she squeezes through the fence between pulses, so she can escape without the tingle. I didn't think anything could outwit my juiced-up fence 'till that.

Trust a goat to figure out something like that!
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This fence will mostly be to keep my own dogs out of the chicken yard, and possibly to keep those same dogs out of a pasture that I *may* end up using for llamas. Not quite as ambitious as goats.
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And there is "regular" fencing as well, this will just be for an added deterrent

Thanks for the input!

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I NEVER trust anyone who is trying to sell me something to tell me the unvarnished truth.

Don't worry about the neighbors kid, tell them and hang the ribbon,,,, I was 3 and knew any fence would shock or cut me, they have a purpose and it is not for kids to climb!!!! I would fear for my life if I went home and said I got shocked on someones fence,,,, I HAD NO BUISNESS BEING NEAR IT...

Yeah, right, and risk neighbor feuds or expensive lawsuits when the kid gets zapped? I don't think so!

Take care of you and yours, the worrys stop at the property line.

Not these days, they don't. Look up "swimming pools" and "attractive nuisances", for instance.

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Hmmm, I don't know that one. I go to the coop out on Asheville Hwy. Unfortunately, the fence will be at my new place in Lebanon -- not here in Knoxville. But thanks for the thought!

Thanks to all for the good info. I'll read the links some of you left, and use your other info for the basis of further investigation. I appreciate it!​
 
Well I can tell you that electric fence can kill a duck. I have 3 strands on the outside of my run and my crazy duck stuck his head through the 2x4 welded wire and touched the wire that is 4 inches off the ground and has 5 inch stand offs. I think it knocked him out instantly and his neck landed on it. I found him pulsing with the electricity and barely alive (well maybe he appeared to gasp due to the electricity).

So The next morning the run was lined with hardware cloth.
 

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