Electric wire help!

[sylviethecochin]

https://www.jefferspet.com/products/underground-insulated-cable

is probably at least similar to the product you would want to use to go underground. You dig a trench, bury the insulated cable, and strip the ends, which you then connect to your electric fence. That way, you don't have to spider-proof anything.

 

[The Phantom]

https://www.jefferspet.com/products/underground-insulated-cable

is probably at least similar to the product you would want to use to go underground. You dig a trench, bury the insulated cable, and strip the ends, which you then connect to your electric fence. That way, you don't have to spider-proof anything.

Let me know if I have this straight. Lol. In the spots I want to run underground or on a post I put the wire through that. Then attach the wire back onto my main wire. Right?

 

[The Phantom]

View attachment 1428486 Bc wildlife website has some good recommendations re electric fences that I followed.

Wow. Your pen is lit up. Lol

 

[The Phantom]

Hot wires only work if the thing you are trying to shock is touching ground AND the hot wire not touching ground. IF you hot wire up away from the earth, you will need to add a wire connected to ground.View attachment 1426214 The center of the 3 wires is connected to ground as seen in this pic. As far as voltage is concerned, I use a ten mile box, about a 8000 volt pulse, View attachment 1426251 enough to wake up an elephant. For coons, a 2 mile box will work.
I would invest in live traps as well. Dispatch the little bandits. Once they discover a food source, they will not leave until the food source is exhausted.View attachment 1426235 TSC sells Coon size traps at a reasonable price.

So if I have a ground rod attached to the wire on the pen it will work. Right?

 

[sylviethecochin]

You bury the insulated cable underground and attach it to normal wire where it comes up.

For wooden posts, you can actually buy plastic sleeves that you use the big, hammer-in staples (I'm sure they have a technical name, but enh) to attach to the post. You can buy a roll and cut it yourself, or you can buy a pack of 4-inch insulators.

There's also stuff made specifically for t-posts, but it depends what you're using.

 

[The Phantom]

You bury the insulated cable underground and attach it to normal wire where it comes up.

For wooden posts, you can actually buy plastic sleeves that you use the big, hammer-in staples (I'm sure they have a technical name, but enh) to attach to the post. You can buy a roll and cut it yourself, or you can buy a pack of 4-inch insulators.

There's also stuff made specifically for t-posts, but it depends what you're using.

Ok. If I attach the wire to a ground rod it will shock them if they touch it when they are off the ground on my pen?

 

[sylviethecochin]

Ok. If I attach the wire to a ground rod it will shock them if they touch it when they are off the ground on my pen?

Not sure. What I do know is that if they are climbing the fence (ie, in contact with the fence, which is presumable highly conductive metal and in contact with the ground) they will get shocked. I have never tried to deal with aerial predators.

 

[Howard E]

To help visualize the workings of an electric fence, it helps to see it another way. Such a fence works like a table lamp, ceiling light or any other electric appliance that gets plugged in and is turned on and off with a switch. Your car battery has the same thing......a (+) post and a (-) post. To turn the lights on, you flip the switch.

In such a setting, there is a hot wire and a ground wire. The same exists with an electric fence. Hot wire (+) and ground wire (-). Except in this case, the animal is the switch. If it touches the hot wire while in contact with the ground (literally the ground upon which they stand), the current flows through and they get shocked. If they are climbing on a standard wire fence that is connected to the ground, such a fence will conduct electricity and works the same as if they were standing on the ground.

If the woven wire or other fence is nailed to wooden posts.....those do not conduct the juice all that well, so the shock would be reduced or eliminated. But if it is mounted on steel posts driven into the ground, it works well.

So if the woven wire is tied back to the ground, you can run hot wires alongside it and if the animal is climbing the woven wire, then touches the hot wire, they get zapped.

So goal is to run the hot wires very close to the woven wire, and as many strands as needed to make sure that any effort on their part to go up and over will always mean they touch a hot wire and get it.

 

[The Phantom]

Not sure. What I do know is that if they are climbing the fence (ie, in contact with the fence, which is presumable highly conductive metal and in contact with the ground) they will get shocked. I have never tried to deal with aerial predators.

To help visualize the workings of an electric fence, it helps to see it another way. Such a fence works like a table lamp, ceiling light or any other electric appliance that gets plugged in and is turned on and off with a switch. Your car battery has the same thing......a (+) post and a (-) post. To turn the lights on, you flip the switch.

In such a setting, there is a hot wire and a ground wire. The same exists with an electric fence. Hot wire (+) and ground wire (-). Except in this case, the animal is the switch. If it touches the hot wire while in contact with the ground (literally the ground upon which they stand), the current flows through and they get shocked. If they are climbing on a standard wire fence that is connected to the ground, such a fence will conduct electricity and works the same as if they were standing on the ground.

If the woven wire or other fence is nailed to wooden posts.....those do not conduct the juice all that well, so the shock would be reduced or eliminated. But if it is mounted on steel posts driven into the ground, it works well.

So if the woven wire is tied back to the ground, you can run hot wires alongside it and if the animal is climbing the woven wire, then touches the hot wire, they get zapped.

So goal is to run the hot wires very close to the woven wire, and as many strands as needed to make sure that any effort on their part to go up and over will always mean they touch a hot wire and get it.

Ok. What if I put metal stakes next to my pen that would hold the wire. (With insulators) they would be in the ground. Since they would be in the ground would they shock an animal on my pen? Sorry I’m still kinda confused, I have never dealt with any king if hot wire.

 

[sylviethecochin]

Ok. What if I put metal stakes next to my pen that would hold the wire. (With insulators) they would be in the ground. Since they would be in the ground would they shock an animal on my pen? Sorry I’m still kinda confused, I have never dealt with any king if hot wire.

Not sure what you're asking. If the animal is touching the metal poles (that are touching the ground) and touching the electric fence, he would be shocked.

If you put a metal rod in the ground and touch it to the electric (no insulator), you're just going to have a huge electricity bill every month because your electricity's going to waste.