Chuckkeeper

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There’s some good explanations in the weight loss guide and plenty in other threads on here. :p
I like to know the mechanics and cause and effect behind things where possible. Lol. Too high humidity means too big a chick and too small an air cell, and possibly too much fluid still in the egg, which translates into less eggs hatching. :)

you might have to play around with a few hatches until you find optimal settings for your location and incubator. 👍
The translation is idiot proof... For me 😂
 

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The translation is idiot proof... For me 😂
Lol, sorry, I didn’t mean it like that. xD I tend to go into too much detail and most of the time nobody wants that. Haha! ask a simple question and all that. 🤣

I’m just one of those weirdos that likes to go pull up scientific studies and papers after someone asks me a question. ( I once spent the entire afternoon reading case studies and papers on fallow deer antler management and the effects of castration on antler growth...)
 

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Lol, sorry, I didn’t mean it like that. xD I tend to go into too much detail and most of the time nobody wants that. Haha! ask a simple question and all that. 🤣

I’m just one of those weirdos that likes to go pull up scientific studies and papers after someone asks me a question. ( I once spent the entire afternoon reading case studies and papers on fallow deer antler management and the effects of castration on antler growth...)
No no I meant it! Science & detail is fab, as is any translation to ensure I've interpreted it correctly! Not weird... Fab!
 

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Lol, sorry, I didn’t mean it like that. xD I tend to go into too much detail and most of the time nobody wants that. Haha! ask a simple question and all that. 🤣

I’m just one of those weirdos that likes to go pull up scientific studies and papers after someone asks me a question. ( I once spent the entire afternoon reading case studies and papers on fallow deer antler management and the effects of castration on antler growth...)
I've got an extra hygrometer. Can you remind me of the minimum humidity you recommend for changing my current incubator to (one week in) and my new incubator (eggs going in tomorrow) please? I am working on lowering it... It seems rather high even with no water in one of them! Currently I've got one on 40% (with eggs a week on) and another on 19% (no eggs yet)
 

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I've got an extra hygrometer. Can you remind me of the minimum humidity you recommend for changing my current incubator to (one week in) and my new incubator (eggs going in tomorrow) please? I am working on lowering it... It seems rather high even with no water in one of them! Currently I've got one on 40% (with eggs a week on) and another on 19% (no eggs yet)
Didn’t get a notification for your last post, sorry. Always better to clarify! Lol.

Perfect. I would drop the humidity if you can to around 30-35%; if it’s running at 40% with no water and the air cells look like they should for day 7, just monitor and make sure it stays somewhere between the 30-40% mark. It can be hard to get it to drop sometimes, and takes a little while. :) it’s more the average humidity over time that matters, so if it’s a little high one day and then a little lower the next, that’s ok. It will fluctuate some.

the incubator that doesn’t have any eggs in yet, try to get it around 30% and then once your eggs have been in for 24 hours or so, you can fiddle with it if need be (it may be best to leave it for a few days if it’s within 30-40% and weigh them or check the air cell 3-4 days in to see how they’re progressing.)
If you’re interested in weighing to track weight loss, make sure you weigh the eggs before you put them in and document it. 👍
 

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Didn’t get a notification for your last post, sorry. Always better to clarify! Lol.

Perfect. I would drop the humidity if you can to around 30-35%; if it’s running at 40% with no water and the air cells look like they should for day 7, just monitor and make sure it stays somewhere between the 30-40% mark. It can be hard to get it to drop sometimes, and takes a little while. :) it’s more the average humidity over time that matters, so if it’s a little high one day and then a little lower the next, that’s ok. It will fluctuate some.

the incubator that doesn’t have any eggs in yet, try to get it around 30% and then once your eggs have been in for 24 hours or so, you can fiddle with it if need be (it may be best to leave it for a few days if it’s within 30-40% and weigh them or check the air cell 3-4 days in to see how they’re progressing.)
If you’re interested in weighing to track weight loss, make sure you weigh the eggs before you put them in and document it. 👍
I am so pleased averages are OK, and that changed will take some time - that's what I'm seeing! I'll keep an eye on it and aim for 35-40. My new one with no water was reading 19%
 

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Lol, sorry, I didn’t mean it like that. xD I tend to go into too much detail and most of the time nobody wants that. Haha! ask a simple question and all that. 🤣

I’m just one of those weirdos that likes to go pull up scientific studies and papers after someone asks me a question. ( I once spent the entire afternoon reading case studies and papers on fallow deer antler management and the effects of castration on antler growth...)
My brinsea is reading 19% with no water. It has two troughs. If I fill one, it'll shoot up to 50%. Any ideas?
 

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My brinsea is reading 19% with no water. It has two troughs. If I fill one, it'll shoot up to 50%. Any ideas?
Don’t fill the trough completely. Measure a bit of water with a syringe or a measuring cup, add it, and wait for a bit and see what it’s reading. :) I usually will add, wait maybe 1/2 an hour, check it, and go from there. Add a bit more if it’s still low, or know that I need to add a bit less if it’s higher than I want. You can wait longer too, if it seems like it’s going up but you’re not sure how much it’s going to. (But definitely experiment with it before adding your eggs).
 

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Don’t fill the trough completely. Measure a bit of water with a syringe or a measuring cup, add it, and wait for a bit and see what it’s reading. :) I usually will add, wait maybe 1/2 an hour, check it, and go from there. Add a bit more if it’s still low, or know that I need to add a bit less if it’s higher than I want. You can wait longer too, if it seems like it’s going up but you’re not sure how much it’s going to. (But definitely experiment with it before adding your eggs).
Thanks. This seems much easier than getting humidity too fall in an inccy that's already going! I have got 6 ayam cemani and 6 light sussex to go in tomorrow. They have been sat ppoint down for 24 and 48 hours - any last minute suggestions before tomo? :)
 

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Thanks. This seems much easier than getting humidity too fall in an inccy that's already going! I have got 6 ayam cemani and 6 light sussex to go in tomorrow. They have been sat ppoint down for 24 and 48 hours - any last minute suggestions before tomo? :)
Most definitely easier. Lol.
oh awesome, both those breeds are so beautiful! Fingers crossed for a great hatch. :)
My only suggestions are to mark your air cells in pencil on the shell so it’s easier to keep track of where they are on what day, and take notes of what works for your incubators. No 2 are the same and if you don’t write it down, you won’t necessarily remember for next season. Lol. I know I don’t. 😳
Happy hatching! :jumpy
 

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