Euskal Oiloa ( Basque Thread)

[Pancholoco]

Another point on your cockerel, from this picture, it appears that he has a white beak and white legs.  If this is the case, it would be a disqualification..  However, breeding him to those two pullets should work since they have yellow legs and yellow beaks and most importantly, the yellow is dominant.  Any chicks that you get from the pairing with white legs and beaks should be culled unless you are not too worried about that sort of thing.  

Thanks. I really appreciate your opinion.

I am not a breeder but I would like to know more about genetics.

I'll post these pictures in a Spanish forum too, to see what they think about this birds. I'm not trying to offend anyone.



Thanks again.

 

[Maggiesdad]

No offense here. You could be a real asset to the breed here in North America, Francisco! ;^ )

It would be great to have someone help with the nuances of translating ideas and concepts that describe this breed of chicken.

It is important that we solidify the translation of the Marradune Standard so that breeders are working to a concrete goal. The differences in all our birds are evidence that things are slipping.

Glen

 

[Flat Rock farm]

No offense here. You could be a real asset to the breed here in North America, Francisco! ;^ )

It would be great to have someone help with the nuances of translating ideas and concepts that describe this breed of chicken.

It is important that we solidify the translation of the Marradune Standard so that breeders are working to a concrete goal. The differences in all our birds are evidence that things are slipping.

Glen

Ditto that!!

 

[QuoVadis]

Anyone in WI have EOs?

 

[Laingcroft]

My latest batch of EO chicks (3rd generation) just turned five weeks old and it looks like they could be sex links! Guess which one is the boy in the picture below (not counting the 8 week old silkie!)



The girls are getting darker and more consistent, but I'm still seeing smuttiness and the occasional spangle which you can see in the two girls in the photo below. At least I've gotten rid of the white legs and black breasted boys. Still seeing the occasional willow leg that turns yellow, but not as clear yellow the ones that start yellow. I wonder how many more generations before I finally get rid of those too.

I'm more and more convinced that there is a double dilution (at least in the boys) going on. Anyone know if the dilution (Di) gene is sex linked? If not, there may be something else going on on that makes the boys so much lighter than the girls --- over and above the barring gene.

 

[Maggiesdad]

Let me clarify that slipping comment...

Tru's birds aren't slipping! d;^))

 

[Laingcroft]

Not slipping, but still slow on the progress!

Still would like to see darker boys. I'm going to give it another generation or two before I bring in a different i.e. darker male. I was fortunate to have a hetero-barred roo in the beginning who gave me one red (gorria?) girl. She had white legs, but selection is everything in the offspring and only her dark yellow legged daughters were bred which produced this bunch. I haven't bred any mille (spangled) or smutty girls to my boy, but those genes are still in there since I'm getting them in the offspring. Hopefully I'll see more improvement in the next generation (4) breeding the cockerel back to my mature hens and the girls back to their sire Golden Boy --- then it's F3 crossing with F4. Hoping to see what we're looking for by F6 without the mille or smuttiness and hopefully darker barred boys.

 

[ronott1]

Anyone in WI have EOs?

There should be someone fairly close to you--Lots of them are in Canada.

Do you have any EOs yet?

 

[juststruttin]

My latest batch of EO chicks (3rd generation) just turned five weeks old and it looks like they could be sex links! Guess which one is the boy in the picture below (not counting the 8 week old silkie!)



The girls are getting darker and more consistent, but I'm still seeing smuttiness and the occasional spangle which you can see in the two girls in the photo below. At least I've gotten rid of the white legs and black breasted boys. Still seeing the occasional willow leg that turns yellow, but not as clear yellow the ones that start yellow. I wonder how many more generations before I finally get rid of those too.

I'm more and more convinced that there is a double dilution (at least in the boys) going on. Anyone know if the dilution (Di) gene is sex linked? If not, there may be something else going on on that makes the boys so much lighter than the girls --- over and above the barring gene.

EOs are not sexed linked but the can be sexed early, around 3-4 weeks as the boys stay light and the girls start getting darker. Boys will also start showing cuckoo in their tails.

 

[Laingcroft]

EOs are not sexed linked but the can be sexed early, around 3-4 weeks as the boys stay light and the girls start getting darker. Boys will also start showing cuckoo in their tails.

Yup...I already know EO are not a true sex link I'm familiar with sex link crosses and true auto-sexing breeds like the Legbar, which I am also working with.

My words were meant tongue-in-cheek to indicate it's pretty easy to sex these guys early on by their feathers and it seems to be getting clearer with each succeeding generation as I try to improve the color in my stock.

(Not neglecting type, but that's not as easy to differentiate at this age.)