Euskal Oiloa ( Basque Thread)

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According to that 1999 history of EO's on the basque webite (quoting), '
"Specific production as a result of the data products
generated two varieties:"
Color variety -- Principal function
Gorria .. .........mixed (eggs and meat)
Lepasoila... .....meat
Marraduna ..... eggs

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History of the Government project: http://euskaloiloa.blogspot.com/search/ … lina-vasca
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1. Gorria is the base color for the breed. It is Black-Tailed Red like the New Hampshire. Then the plumage is tweaked to get the other 4 varieties in the breed.

2. Beltza is Gorria taken to the extreme. If one keeps adding Ml and rb to Black-Tailed Red, one gets the deep Rhode Island Red color. Keep adding ML and rb and eventually the whole bird is black(Beltza). ( Ml is Melonic; rb is recessive black)

3. Marraduna, is Gorria with barring (from the barring gene, not autosomal barring). Eoalak says a side effect is the chestnut hues are brightened. I think that's why I thought I was looking at a barred Black-Tailed Buff.... and not a barred Black-Tailed Red. That also explains the Mh in the Marraduna when I was expecting just Co/Co( to lighten and even out the buff hues).

4. Lepasoila : A Naked-Neck Gorria.

5. Zilarra : Take Gorria...change the red and brown areas to white and leave the black areas the same, viola!, Zilarra.
( same visual effect as Light Sussex)

6. Llodiana , at present, is not of the breed Esukal Oiloa.( sebastapol says Llodiana is a part of Euskal Oiloa, so maybe I am wrong?) It is a separate breed of Basque chicken. It is a barred eWh bird based on Gorria. The hen exists at the extreme lght end of the buff spectrum..very light buff with little, if any, black on the hen. ( a buff hen exhibiting the Co gene to the extent that black is almost or completely removed from the hen)
The cock looks like a Black-Tailed Red, except his stomach feathering is much lighter buff color. ( I was real disappointed to learn Llodian was not EO because I wanted to breed this color in EO's. But I will also have lot of fun breeding the other EO colors instead.
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"The action of the sex linked barring gene
on Spanish chickens with gold plumage"
J. L. CAMPO F. OROZCO
Departamento de Genitica Cuantitativa y Mejora Animal
Instituto Nacional de Investigaciones Agrarias
Carretera de La Coruna Km. 7, Madrid (Espana)
Here is the English version of the study:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/d24973463n2214h1/fulltext.pdf Campo and Orozco worked together on study of genetics and preservation of Spanish Fowl. Campo was especially interested in the Basque fowl. From what I can gather, one of the Basque fowl was a very a rare color . The only other recorded poultry color which was the same was the Gold Barred Rock. Punnett and Pease wrote a paper on GBR in 1928. Excellent reading. http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jgenet/19/337.pdf Campo stated in his work that Euskal Oiloa carried Dominant White. From what I can gather from the P&P 1928 study, the GBR is Barred Buff Columbian built on a Dominant White base. I don't know if the Illiana (sp?) variety of Euskal Oiloa is the same as the bird Campo described. I need to find out from Lys if the persons who brought them back in Basqueland has revealed their genome.
 
I emailed Sigrid in the Netherlands about availaibilty of the new softcover " The Genetics of Chicken Colours-The Basics". Below is her response which just came thru. I agree with James about this book. Not only is the front half easy to understand, the 2nd half in the back is chock full of large color photos of all the colors with thier genetic "recipes". This book is perfect for anyone, especially the beginner or someone wanting to work on a color project. Sigrid quotes postage for 2 copies so if two people wanted to go together, postage could be saved.
Best Regards,
Karen
As of 8-28-2011 according to XE currency convertor:
75.00 EUR = 108.954 USD
16.15 EUR = 23.4588 USD
2.00 EUR = 2.90513 USD
168.15 EUR = 244.239 USD
So basically, if ordering 2 at a time, the price difference between the 1st edition hardcover
and the 2nd printing softcover to your doorstep for one copy has risen about $14.00 USD. Not bad.
Best Regards,
Karen
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Hi Karen,
The softcovers are printed in January since hard cover is too expensive
after the first run was sold out after 2 years. Printing prices raised a
lot therefore there are printed small runs of 50 books a time digitally.
The book is 75 euros, mail costs to the US of two copies 16,15 euro and
the protecting special carton wrap is 2 euros.
This is in total 168,15 euro.

You can pay with paypal: [email protected]
Or by bank:
Acc. #: 1279.35.401
Name: Sigrid van Dort Vormgeving
City: Klarenbeek
Country: Holland
Bic: RABONL2U
Iban: NL48RABO 0127935401

I will google on Euskal Oiloa chickens, never heard of that breed :))

Have a nice day!

kind regards,
Sigrid
 
Thanks 3Rivers, You rock
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Lots of great info for those who don't have it. You did a lot of work for those who are new to EOs or who just have not been able to find it. It is people like you who will get the EOs where they need to be in North America. Great job and thanks again.
 
I guess I've got more research to do, including reviewing the Spanish standard, which is fine; I'm not planning to show these chickens. I'd love to know how they arrived in the US but don't know anything about Eric Brevard. If he imported a few then began outcrossing, is it known what breed(s) he used?

From my VERY limited research outside of Greenfire's information, the Euskal Oiloa was just a landrace breed/assortment of mixed flocks located on various farmsteads in the Basque country until 1975/6 when one or more Spanish poultry fanciers or preservationists decided to start gathering eggs in an attempt to standardize a breed. By 2000 they had standardized the breed to single combs and varieties of black (beltza), brownish-red (lepogorri), arminada white (zilarra) and the marradune, a brown or yellowish cream color with white striping (barring.) No reference was made to black or dark gray stripes though all images show only the roosters having black barring in the tail feathers - hens are golden with light hints of barring. Birds that fit this description are the ones I plan to breed from; the rest will remain part of the layer flock.

Short of importing directly from Spain/France/Basque country in order find one that meets the Spanish SOP, the only thing that can be done is breed with what is currently available in hopes of achieving it.

We do not know what breed(s) he used but suspect Penedesenca was one used. There may have been others.

You are correct in what we need to do to get pure breed EOs as importing from Spain is not a viable option. There are some that are looking at importing some from France or Germany but that seems to be a battle as well. We will achieve it....Just a matter of how long it will take.
 
Hello folks! I am new to BYC but a little less new to Euskal oiloa. I have a small breeding flock of the marraduna with a few gorria like hens and big plans for the 2012 breeding season once spring arrives (April up in this area!).

I have been following this thread almost from the start and couldn't resist actively participating.

I am an active member of a form dedicated to EOs and we have managed to put together a fairly substantial collection of information so far. A draft Standard of Perfection to meet the American Poultry Association format and detail is posted on the forum. Some good collections of information on genetics, common defect and lots of pictures! A work in progress for sure but we are trying. www.euskaloiloas.com will get you there if anyone wants to take a look.

3riverchick i am happy to hear you still have plans to work with EOs!

I am quite certain the correct base of the marraduna is ewh. And i wonder why you are so certain they have the mahogany (Mh) allele? Trying to figure out the color "recipe" of this variety has been a winter project of mine so I am excited to hear others thoughts.

Do you believe the base of the gorria is the same as the marraduna or different? And the beltza? I thought perhaps beltza was E.

And interesting your thoughts on the lliodiana, I was also quite sure they are a variety of EO. And what would allow Co to be exhibited such that all black in the hackles and almost all black in the tail is lost? I have some very light blonde marraduna in my flock but all have distinct black in the hackles.

My copy of The Genetics of Chicken Colors - The basics arrived about a month ago and it is a great book, worth the cost.

I hope no one minds my joining the conversation. Any discussion on EOs has me at "hello"!
 
Hi Poplar egg,
We are a small operation. I decided I wanted to go with an APA approved breed. Because we only have room for about 30 adult large fowl, I decided on one breed, Light Sussex.
I am hoping in the furture, I can find room for a trio of EO's. In the meantime, my fascination with the breed continues. They're just captivating!
The Llodiana were recreated by a noted poultry genius who was the son of a nobleman from a Spanish region noted for it's lovely sandstone. Personally, I think this young man created the color as a testament t the color of the sandstone for which his region is known. There is a picture of a famous, old Roman fort in that region. The color , design and hue of the wall as the sun plays on it is an exact duplicate of the color and hue of the Llodiana hen. Hum...
Karen
The llodiana color was recently reintroduced in 2010 to the Basque at the Basque Fair.
 
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