Faverolles Thread

[Summer Rose]

My girls are getting bigger and bigger, LOL The second pic is Bonnie swinging on the swing I made..so couldn't get a good picture, LOL

 

[Leo1]

It's a drawing salve, it can have various ingredients in it depending on which recipe you use, but it usually has charcoal in it. If I remember right in my last batch I had shea butter, cocoa butter, coconut oil, bees wax, charcoal, calendula leafs and rosemary oil(as an antiseptic, antifungal and antibacterial agent). You melt the base ingredients at a low temperature and let it cool a little and then add the charcoal, oils, herbs and whatever else you put in it. There are a bunch of recipes online. I have heard of someone making it with tar in it, but the charcoal makes more sense to me. The charcoal pulls and absorbs toxins, that's why it is given internally when something toxic has been ingested too, it has a similar effect externally.
I had been battling a nasty spider bite for 2 months, was in a lot of pain(couldn't lean back in a chair or lay on my back) and began having streaks running from the bite despite keeping antibiotic ointment on it. I was going to go to the doctor, but with my fear of doctors I decided to make some black salve as a last resort. I applied it 3 times a day with a bandage over it and after a day of doing so, the pain eased, the streaks and redness went away and within a week all the necrotic tissue fell off and other then a big hole in my back, it was all back to normal. It also works wonders for diabetics that have scrapes or sores that don't want to heal. It is great stuff and my secret weapon

Ok so stupid question, would charcoal from a charcoal briquette be the right thing? If I mixed a little of that into a comfrey salve?

 

[thechickonthehill]

Snozzle, what is black salve?

Sounds like you are talking about ichthamol which is a drawing salve. Often used in horses to help draw infection from a wound.

 

[KMHunter]

Quote: I looked up black salve and that came up with it. I think I might get some to have in my chicken medical kit. Can't be too prepared!

 

[gottsegnet]

Genetics question:

I have a salmon faverolle cockerel a really nice pullet, two so-so pullets and one with a split tail. I also have some that are apparently crossed with Ameraucanas (they have four toes on one or both feet).

What are the genetics behind the toes? I'm wondering what to expect when I breed these.

1) They were all out of the same batch of hatching eggs, so I'm wondering if I can be safe in assuming the five toed ones are indeed fully salmon faverolles and that their chicks will also have five toes?

2) If I breed the ones with odd numbers of toes, what will happen with the toes? And more importantly, if one of them has a chick with the proper number of toes, will it reliably produce five toed chicks?

We keep two flocks of chickens. One for showing (so not seriously) and one just for eggs. My daughter would like to sell hatching eggs locally, but I need to work out how carefully we need to track these particular chickens, or if we can continue pulling out the nicest from our flock for breeding purposes.

 

[mame1616]

My favs get picked on regularly, although they seem to take it in stride, whereas I freak out over it. I have several things placed in the coop and run that would allow an abused bird to get away - feed cans, the free-standing nest box, the roosts, and outside there is enough room with rocks and ledges for them to escape. It seems, for the most part, out outta sight, outta mind for the abusers. (Although they get a scolding and a spanking from me when I see it! Because I've lost my mind.)

 

[mame1616]

Genetics question:

I have a salmon faverolle cockerel a really nice pullet, two so-so pullets and one with a split tail. I also have some that are apparently crossed with Ameraucanas (they have four toes on one or both feet).

What are the genetics behind the toes? I'm wondering what to expect when I breed these.

1) They were all out of the same batch of hatching eggs, so I'm wondering if I can be safe in assuming the five toed ones are indeed fully salmon faverolles and that their chicks will also have five toes?

2) If I breed the ones with odd numbers of toes, what will happen with the toes? And more importantly, if one of them has a chick with the proper number of toes, will it reliably produce five toed chicks?

We keep two flocks of chickens. One for showing (so not seriously) and one just for eggs. My daughter would like to sell hatching eggs locally, but I need to work out how carefully we need to track these particular chickens, or if we can continue pulling out the nicest from our flock for breeding purposes.

If they are all out of the same batch, then there's some not-so-great genetics in all of them. Just because their phenotype (how they look) is good, doesn't mean they'll keep producing that way. They could turn around and produce the birds with the DQ's like their hatch mates, because they all have the same origin. Is there no way for you to order eggs from one of the the breeders here and start with a higher quality batch? It may not seem like it, but it's way cheaper, and a lot less work and frustration, in the long run to get some really good eggs than to try to squeeze the few good genes out of poor quality birds and work for years to overcome the faults. You's still have to bring in some good blood at some point to improve the line, so mu advice is to start with the good blood straight off. You can keep you current favs for eggs, since they are pretty great layers.

 

[gottsegnet]

If they are all out of the same batch, then there's some not-so-great genetics in all of them. Just because their phenotype (how they look) is good, doesn't mean they'll keep producing that way. They could turn around and produce the birds with the DQ's like their hatch mates, because they all have the same origin. Is there no way for you to order eggs from one of the the breeders here and start with a higher quality batch? It may not seem like it, but it's way cheaper, and a lot less work and frustration, in the long run to get some really good eggs than to try to squeeze the few good genes out of poor quality birds and work for years to overcome the faults. You's still have to bring in some good blood at some point to improve the line, so mu advice is to start with the good blood straight off. You can keep you current favs for eggs, since they are pretty great layers.

That's what I was afraid of. These actually come from a breeder here who has such beautiful birds. The explanation I have is that an Ameraucana may have jumped the fence so some or all may be crosses. The nice ones actually won best of breed and reserve best of breed at the state fair, but I'm not sure if these traits are recessive (so all of them may be carrying whatever genes result in 4 toes) or dominant so my five toed birds should be good.

We're looking for another breeder, but large fowl salmon faverolles are so hard to find! It took two years to get these because we were on a waiting list forever for day old chicks when they scaled back their breeding, then we got an order from someone else that got lost in the mail and a week later we had a box of dead chicks and then we finally decided to try hatching eggs from someone here and this is what we ended up with. Long frustrating process, and to top it off, these are actually my daughter's she paid for with money she earned at the fair way back when.

 

[crazyhen]

Pm me if you find a reputable breeder. Next Spring I want to order some chicks. Gloria Jean

 

[gottsegnet]

Crazyhen, I would totally work with the breeder we tried to get live chicks from again. The post office mess up was not at all her fault and she filed everything with the post office so we could get refunded for the loss. She's in FL which looks like it would be a lot closer to you. We're in NE and just decided maybe we should try to find something closer to up our chances for survival! I will try to find her contact info and send it to you.