February 2023 hatch-a-long

[gimmie birdies]

Another NN. #10. 2 left in this batch to hatch, both pipped.

 

[casportpony]

Um just my two cents. Were you the one that had chickens that were vaccinated for mareks die of mareks? If so, and for anyone who has had vaccinated chickens against a disease that they later died from, isn't that a bit suspicious? Don't you think it's possible the vaccine itself had the mareks disease in it?

My chickens that have been vaccinated for Marek's have not died from Marek's.

 

[LhickenChicken]

My chickens that have been vaccinated for Marek's have not died from Marek's.

Just putting it out there.

 

[casportpony]

Just putting it out there.

Putting what out there?

 

[LhickenChicken]

Putting what out there?

The possibility that the disease that the chicken was vaccinated against is in the vaccine.

 

[casportpony]

The possibility that the disease that the chicken was vaccinated against is in the vaccine.

"While the vaccine will prevent birds from experiencing symptoms and greatly diminish the spread of the disease, a Marek’s Disease vaccination cannot completely prevent infection."
Source

To suggest that the vaccine makes them sick sounds like another conspiracy theory.

 

[LhickenChicken]

"While the vaccine will prevent birds from experiencing symptoms and greatly diminish the spread of the disease, a Marek’s Disease vaccination cannot completely prevent infection."
Source

To suggest that the vaccine makes them sick sounds like another conspiracy theory.

Thank you for your opinion.

 

[BarnyardChaos]

The possibility that the disease that the chicken was vaccinated against is in the vaccine.

"While the vaccine will prevent birds from experiencing symptoms and greatly diminish the spread of the disease, a Marek’s Disease vaccination cannot completely prevent infection."

But that's what a vaccine IS - a killed or weakened form of the same germs that cause the disease.

 

[casportpony]

But that's what a vaccine IS - a killed or weakened form of the same germs that cause the disease.

Isn't the vaccine the turkey herpes virus?

Edited to add:
Chickens are the most important natural host for Marek's disease virus (MDV), a highly cell-associated but readily transmitted alphaherpesvirus with lymphotropic properties of gammaherpesviruses. Quail can be naturally infected, and turkeys can be infected experimentally. However, severe clinical outbreaks of Marek's disease in commercial turkey flocks, with mortality from tumors reaching 40%–80% between 8 and 17 weeks of age, were reported in France, Israel, and Germany. In some of these cases, the affected turkey flocks were raised in proximity to broilers. Turkeys are also commonly infected with turkey herpesvirus (HVT), an avirulent strain related to Marek's disease virus that is commonly used as a Marek's disease vaccine in chickens. Other birds and mammals appear to be refractory to the disease or infection.
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/neoplasms/marek-s-disease-in-poultry

 

[AusHen]

Two of Broody Bella's chicks have hatched so now three chicks (other is CL x Leghorn)