Feeding twice a day - when do you give treats?

How old are your birds?


Treats...any kind should never equal more than about one TABLESPOON per bird per day.
If you're feeding more than a spoonful to your bird you're overfeeding it treats which is not doing any good...
It is doing more harm by taking away from the bird getting a balanced diet.
They vary in age, youngest is 2 days, 15/16 weeks, 20/22 weeks and just over a year. They don’t eat all their scraps, often the chipmunks, birds and my dog will clean up after them and if they don’t then I will clean it up. They are very active and are constantly moving around the yard, thanks for the advice!
 
:welcome :frow My birds have hanging feeders that always have feed available but I have a lot of birds. I don't give them treats daily but they do get some quite often. The birds take what they want. I have 40# feeders in the coops so I fill them once a week. I go through a half ton of feed a month. I realize my situation is quite different than most chicken owners. Good luck and have fun...
 
How old are your birds?


Treats...any kind should never equal more than about one TABLESPOON per bird per day.
If you're feeding more than a spoonful to your bird you're overfeeding it treats which is not doing any good...
It is doing more harm by taking away from the bird getting a balanced diet.
Okay, then maybe I'm not understanding treats as opposed to food.

They are about a year old. I do want to give them some watermelon or cold thing on hot days, but I also consider this part of their food. Even a small wedge of watermelon is WAY more than a tablespoon per bird.

Same with yogurt which I give once a week. We're moving from expensive feed to foraging/scraps/composting method with some fodder and fermented grain. But it's not consistent yet.

What is considered a treat as opposed to a food? If I hang an apple up, is that a treat? Or part of their diet that day? What if I hang a new veg or fruit every day because it's food? Is that a treat or part of their diet?

Appreciate the help!
 
You should not be feeding them scratch daily.

I'd stop doing that immediately.
Can I ask why? My friend, who is a major bird person, has had chickens for 20 years, healthy and some still laying at 8 years. and told me to feed them half scratch and half layer pellets mixed - 1/2 a cup per chicken daily. That's 2 cups of pellets and scratch per day.

Why not scratch daily?
 
We have mice and I don't want to leave feed out for them. Plus sometimes it's so humid here, the feed just rots if it sits there day after day.

What kind of feeder do you use?

I like my traditional, hanging feeder, which I have in a shelter so that it stays dry.
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I live in the Steamy Southeast of the USA, where 95F with 95% humidity is our summer normal, and have never had feed rot/mold unless water was directly getting into it.

Since the life of a mouse in a chicken run in the daytime is short, your better option would be to either switch to a rodent-proof feeder or to put your feed into a secure place (in your house, inside a metal garbage can, etc.), at night.

I personally limit scratch, empty carbs, to a few handfuls a week -- thrown into the run in whatever place I think needs to have the litter turned over.

I don't limit green stuff like weeds, veggie trimmings, etc. on the theory that they'd be eating plenty of greens if they were free-ranging.

I don't find that my birds over-eat fruit. I give them melon guts and rinds, bruised apples, and various peels and they generally eat some and leave the rest to become one with the litter.

HOWEVER, I'm sure that if they didn't have free access to their feed at all times during the day they would gobble down anything that appeared without self-limiting because they were HUNGRY. Chickens are designed to forage all day rather than eat bulk meals.

Can I ask why? My friend, who is a major bird person, has had chickens for 20 years, healthy and some still laying at 8 years. and told me to feed them half scratch and half layer pellets mixed - 1/2 a cup per chicken daily. That's 2 cups of pellets and scratch per day.

Why not scratch daily?

Scratch is empty carbs. The pellets are scientifically designed with the perfect balance of nutrients to keep chickens in optimal health.
 
What kind of feeder do you use?

I like my traditional, hanging feeder, which I have in a shelter so that it stays dry.
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I live in the Steamy Southeast of the USA, where 95F with 95% humidity is our summer normal, and have never had feed rot/mold unless water was directly getting into it.

Since the life of a mouse in a chicken run in the daytime is short, your better option would be to either switch to a rodent-proof feeder or to put your feed into a secure place (in your house, inside a metal garbage can, etc.), at night.

I personally limit scratch, empty carbs, to a few handfuls a week -- thrown into the run in whatever place I think needs to have the litter turned over.

I don't limit green stuff like weeds, veggie trimmings, etc. on the theory that they'd be eating plenty of greens if they were free-ranging.

I don't find that my birds over-eat fruit. I give them melon guts and rinds, bruised apples, and various peels and they generally eat some and leave the rest to become one with the litter.

HOWEVER, I'm sure that if they didn't have free access to their feed at all times during the day they would gobble down anything that appeared without self-limiting because they were HUNGRY. Chickens are designed to forage all day rather than eat bulk meals.



Scratch is empty carbs. The pellets are scientifically designed with the perfect balance of nutrients to keep chickens in optimal health.
My feeder is just a tray raised off the ground.

The way the pen is built, there's one cross-beam under the tarp where I keep water the the feed tray so maybe I can hang one there.

Since we're switching to fermented feed to cut down costs, can a glop like that work in a hanging feeder? Won't that go icky sticky in one of those plastic or metal buckets?

Good to know about the scratch. Thanks.
 
My feeder is just a tray raised off the ground.

The way the pen is built, there's one cross-beam under the tarp where I keep water the the feed tray so maybe I can hang one there.

Since we're switching to fermented feed to cut down costs, can a glop like that work in a hanging feeder? Won't that go icky sticky in one of those plastic or metal buckets?

Good to know about the scratch. Thanks.

I know nothing about using fermented feed.

I know that the method has strong advocates, but it has always seemed to me to be a great deal of extra work as well as putting the chickens on an unnatural, scheduled eating plan.
 
I know nothing about using fermented feed.

I know that the method has strong advocates, but it has always seemed to me to be a great deal of extra work as well as putting the chickens on an unnatural, scheduled eating plan.
Not trying to be a problem or anything, but what do you mean by unnatural? I remember my grandparents and great-grandmother going out in the morning and throwing whatever feed they were using (I think it was cracked corn) to the chickens in the morning. Later in the day, they threw the household kitchen scraps to them. They didn't feed them anything at night. The chickens lived in the backyard and one of those backyards was in New York City.

It just sounds less natural to me to feed pellets than grain and produce and weeds and grass.

I guess my original question should be restated - what is a treat and what is a food?
 
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Not trying to be a problem or anything, but what do you mean by unnatural? I remember my grandparents and great-grandmother going out in the morning and throwing whatever feed they were using (I think it was cracked corn) to the chickens in the morning. Later in the day, they threw the household kitchen scraps to them. They didn't feed them anything at night. The chickens lived in the backyard and one of those backyards was in New York City.

It just sounds less natural to me to feed pellets than grain and produce and weeds and grass.

I guess my original question should be restated - what is a treat and what is a food?

It's one thing to offer supplemental feed a few times a day to chickens who are ranging and foraging all day and another thing to limit feed for chickens who are confined to a run and have limited access to forage. :)

Additionally, modern chickens are MUCH more productive than their ancestors several human generations ago.

A few months ago a person linked a .pdf of a poultry-keeping book from 1921 that applied the then-latest scientific principles to the task of getting 100 eggs per bird per year -- from LEGHORNS. Today we'd expect more than that from a Brahma.

We'd expect a Leghorn or other high-production breed to lay in excess of 300 eggs per year (I have a California White who has missed only 2 days since she first started laying in early December), and an average dual-purpose breed to lay 200-250 eggs per year.

There are different philosophies in chicken keeping. Mine is to make their lives as natural as I can within the limits of the fact that I keep them confined in a run for their safety (and the safety of my vegetable garden), and expect a high level of production. :)
 
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Seriously? It is literally a handful for the flock. They are adult birds. Thought it was good to give them something to do.
They eat a lot of their feed, Purina Flock Raiser. They get oystershell and grit on the side. They also just get a handful of mealworms. What is the reason not to give them scratch? If is a good brand, no corn in it.🤔
I think a little tiny bit like you’re doing is fine but mixing it in half and half as part of their diet like OP was doing isn’t especially because I guarantee they’re not even touching the pellets if given a choice.
 

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