Feeds affecting laying?

[CarlaCo]

I feed TSC feeds. My flock's production is fine. I got 7 eggs today from 9 laying hens/pullets. I got 6 yesterday. Idk what is going on with other people's flocks. My production hasn't dropped any more than any other year, except that 3 of my older girls have finally stopped laying, but it's expected at that age.

Try switching feeds, then. See if that helps.

I’m glad yours is good. I wonder about how fast someone goes through feed and how fast their local TS replenishes stock. Some may be still purchasing older lots. It’s also possible (to make this harder to detect) a company could alter so many lots but not all.
Bottom line should be if someone has a problem, they can try switching feeds, or adding extra protein till they use up what they have and then switch.

 

[Aunt Angus]

I’m glad yours is good. I wonder about how fast someone goes through feed and how fast their local TS replenishes stock. Some may be still purchasing older lots. It’s also possible (to make this harder to detect) a company could alter so many lots but not all.
Bottom line should be if someone has a problem, they can try switching feeds, or adding extra protein till they use up what they have and then switch.

Yeah. Might as well try.

I never buy anything older than 2 months (I always check dates). I go through two 40-lb bags per month.

 

[8shotsmorethots]

Thank you again, Stormcrow!
Hate to see conspiracy theories and misinformation spread here, or anywhere.
Mary

What exactly do you mean by this? Does it really not concern you that people all over the internet are all experiencing the same phenomenon?

 

[littlecoopnextdoor]

What exactly do you mean by this? Does it really not concern you that people all over the internet are all experiencing the same phenomenon?

I've only seen people in the US talk about this, and it always seems like they got their info from another video/youtuber/tiktoker and repeat. I haven't seen anyone compare feed labels or talk about nutrients or consider other stressors or the sunshine. If I'm wrong, let me know?

 

[U_Stormcrow]

I've only seen people in the US talk about this, and it always seems like they got their info from another video/youtuber/tiktoker and repeat. I haven't seen anyone compare feed labels or talk about nutrients or consider other stressors or the sunshine. If I'm wrong, let me know?

Actually, we are comparing feed labels right here.

and plenty of us more experienced osters have talked about the effects of daylight hours, the freakish weather we've had of late further reducing effective daylight hours (and environmental stressors on chickens), the effects of hen age on both total rate of lay and tendency to "pause" (since so many have birds that laid thru their first winter, bought near start of pandemic, and are now experiencing their first adult molt) and exploring other factors (very old feeds from poor inventory management, something some TSC locations are famed for), increased aflatoxins from unusually wet periods near harvest, etc...

but for the few who have rejected all those alternative explanations, and also won't trust a feed label (but won't send it for testing, either)? They have created an unfalsifiable narrative by rejecting all contrary evidence to reinforce their prexisting world view, reality be damned. ...I can't cure stupid, all I can do is try to help fix ignorance.

 

[Apis mellifera]

Ive contacted Purina about the content of their feed a few times and I always get the cookie cutter non answer from them. Ive mentioned it in other threads. So its on them if people get suspicious. I see nothing wrong with questioning ingredients of feed or are own food for that matter. But the alarming thing to me is the same shills always come out to defend and make excuses for them.

 

[littlecoopnextdoor]

Actually, we are comparing feed labels right here.

and plenty of us more experienced osters have talked about the effects of daylight hours, the freakish weather we've had of late further reducing effective daylight hours (and environmental stressors on chickens), the effects of hen age on both total rate of lay and tendency to "pause" (since so many have birds that laid thru their first winter, bought near start of pandemic, and are now experiencing their first adult molt) and exploring other factors (very old feeds from poor inventory management, something some TSC locations are famed for), increased aflatoxins from unusually wet periods near harvest, etc...

but for the few who have rejected all those alternative explanations, and also won't trust a feed label (but won't send it for testing, either)? They have created an unfalsifiable narrative by rejecting all contrary evidence to reinforce their prexisting world view, reality be damned. ...I can't cure stupid, all I can do is try to help fix ignorance.

Yes I saw that and have been following! What I mean is in most of the social media posts, there is no one doing that. I'm thankful you are! And interesting to see some of the feed differences over the years. Not saying there isn't a problem, there may be batch issues, but saying that I keep hearing the same rhetoric and not a lot of numbers crunching all over YouTube and social media.

I am in a region that does not have Purina or any of the big American brands I hear of, and I haven't heard of anyone having this issue here in any local groups. Just stating that so no one thinks I'm a 'shill'

 

[NanaK]

If you do not read any other part of my post please follow this link and read if you think your hens have a laying issue.

https://cokerfeedmill.com/why-did-the-chicken-stop-laying-the-egg-too-busy-crossing-the-road/

If you really think you have a bad batch of feed you should have it tested. Simple.

If something truly sinister was going on and someone wanted to do something to poultry feed so we couldn't have home raised eggs ????Don't you think it would affect ALL brands???

Now here's my feed story.
I normally feed Nutrena or Purina Flock Raiser. Due to poor rotation of feeds locally sometimes I get what brand is freshest.

I had been feeding Nutrena All Flock for the last several months. When I bought feed in December it was sold out so I got Dumor.

I've been through about 75 lbs of it now, a little over a month. I've seen no difference in laying.

I have 4 pullets laying now. One started laying since the Dumor feed change. The other 3 are still laying the same 5-6 eggs per week.

I also have hens 3-10 years old. Some no longer lay at all. The others usually start around February.

I'm not seeing a problem with Dumor. I see no real change.

 

[sdm111]

So all this information is coming from Facebook? Ha. One if the most reputable sources for information. That's all I needed to read.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

So all this information is coming from Facebook? Ha. One if the most reputable sources for information. That's all I needed to read.

Actually, its coming from an end of the world/secret masters Youtube page, then being repeated on Facebook by people who may be unfamiliar with its origins. Oh, and supported by a Tic Toc post. Here's the source, sample headlines from his channel, just this week -

Not that they are necessarily always wrong - even the Weekly World News accidentally gets the facts right on occaision, though their reporting of those facts is simplistic and sensationalist - but it really doesn't scream "trustworthy, nuanced, and reliable"