Fences dont always make good neighbors... Pics at 11

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Not quite sure what your post has to do with this thread or who's last line you're referring to.

But have you ever been to Pueblo Colorado? It's hotter than you know what for part of the summer.

That's what I was thinking as I read that post. And I grew up in Dallas, of which Garland is a suburb.

 

[silkiechicken]

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Yeah... from those pics, looks like the easement is so you can access your place, not the other way around.

 

[Dr.Doorlock]

The last line of Camalot's original post was about his wish to live on a mountain 100 miles from anywhere. I was just trying to move back to that happier subject. I spent 15 wonderful months living in Pueblo before the bottom fell out. We were at least glad we rented our Texas house since we had to move back so I could get a job. Next time I'll be close enough to retirement that I can just quit working if the job runs out.

Camalot, you look pretty close to your dream if you could get things straight with this one neighbor. Keep on thinking free and dreaming big!

 

[Mattemma]

A fence through a pond? I am a total fence nut and even that is beyond me!

If you are not up to moving I would figure out the best way to fence around the easement.Wire fencing then add some tall growing plants like grasses,bamboo,or shrubs to block the view of the coming and going of the crowd.Kind of create a corridor for them. If you can work WITH the neighbor to create this illusion of privacy for you both then things might just work out.

Easements and funky layouts are added to my list of things to avoid for future property purchases.

I scanned through fencing posts for years before we put ours up.Seems like once a neighbor puts up a fence you have to go through civil court to make make them move it.You can not take it down even if you find out it is on your land. I waited 2 years after doing a survey to give our neighbors time to dispute/resurvey.


Seems like the best option was to file a dispute when the neighbor posts his/her fencing permit.Most places make them post it for a few days in their window.So you tell zoning you do not agree with the fence location(or type or height) if the neighbor has not done a survey.A survey is a must.Suprisingly not required by law,but I think it should be.

Have a property lawyer look over things if needed-easement,boundaries,survey,fencing..If your neighbor is doing anything wrong the lawyer can advise them through a letter.

For the pond fish.You could do fish netting across the pond,but that is expensive.Build another pond.Or divide the cost with the neighbor to purchase the fish.I would be annoyed if I bought all the fish and my neighbor/their friends had caught them all.

 

[Mattemma]

Did you ever have boundary markers staked out? When I did my boundary survey they located the corner pins and placed a midway stake where our 2 lots meet.When I was getting ready for the fence install I had the surveyors place wooden stakes every 10 feet or so. It really helped for everyone to SEE exactly where the property line was.Before I was trying to measure 400 some feet from one corner pin to the other on a curve.

I would recommend markers placed to really know who owns what,and then work that land to create that privacy.


People really need to think things out when they divide up their land and sell off a piece of it.Sounds like this person did a very poor job of it.

Hope you find a way to work it out.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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While it is possible that a permit is needed, I would be really surprised. Even my city which has very strict standards for development and permits does not require them unless the foundation is more than 2' deep or the height is in excess of 6'

 

[Camelot Farms]

Thanks everyone! You have made some great points!

DH and I did wonder about us having a ROW through her property but when we pull up a county map of the streets, it shows that our road ends at my property line so we assumed that she simply owned land on both sides of the road.

There is a main road (Jones Rd) that our road comes off of (Smith St.) and we all have addresses on Smith St.

So, we assumed that it is an actual rd/st rather than just an easement through her property.

Hmmm....sounds like I need to make a quick trip to our town records folks and ask some questions today

In answer to the question about showing where the easement is, if you look at the last picture of the plat that I posted, the dotted line that I drew is what we were told is the easement that they have through our property.
You can see in the photos that I posted that it leads to that cattle gate.

I dont know where my deed is at this very moment and DH is out of town so when he checks in again, I will be asking him and finding out

 

[Camelot Farms]

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LOL... one day when they werent home, I ran a string from rod to rod along that side of the property and thru the pond just for that reason...I wanted to see how much of the pond they actually had a right to.

 

[Camelot Farms]

Verbage from the deed:

This conveyance is made subject to all prior conveyances, existing easements, conditions , rights of way, including the rights of others to use the fifty (50) foot right of way, in common with others, shown on the aforesaid plat of record in said Clerks office as Instrument No. blah blah at page 34; an easement from the 50 ft right of way to the gate at its present location for ingress and egress to the 15.64 acre tract adjoining this tract presently owned by Mandy Ellen Hearl.

OK everyone...I think I got it now.

If I read this correctly, I have been misunderstanding the 50ft right away. As some of you pointed out, the 50 ft right of way is what leads to my property and is clearly marked on that last plat that I posted. THEN, the folks who own property behind me have an easement through my property which you can see in the photos as the tire tracks running past my barn, past the pond and to that gate (the gate is actually referenced in the deed).
It is very narrow thanks to the fact that there is a barbed wire fence on the left and the pond on the right, so there is no mistaking it. lol

The easement doesnt give them the right to walk across my yard to get to their little piece of the pond. They have to use the easement to get to their 15.64 acres and then walk through it to get to the pond.

The little happy dance may look childish but you have NO idea of the crazy things that this woman has said and done in the 4 years that we have been here. It is just so danged nice to be on the 'right' side of things and have the law behind me.

I will be heading to the store for some No Trespass signs and mounting them at the property line.

Y'all are awesome!!

 

[Chickenmaven]

I would recommend getting someone to write up a "statement of clarification" (term I made up

) and mail it to your neighbor. This could be an attorney or someone from the title company. The title company that handled your sale should be in a position to do this. If they balk, I would recommend that you contact the realtor that handled your purchase. Firmly request their help in getting this interpretation. I am suggesting this because I handle property matters. Your neighbor might want to make this into a pi$$ing match, when it should be a cut & dry statement of fact.
Enjoy you pretty piece of heaven!