Feral cats...

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I saw your original post, and from my perspective, based on my observations, I find that human life is incredibly overvalued.

And btw, I've always thought of myself as a very rational person.

Yikes!
 
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Isnt it better to be realistic about the situation?

Again, this thread is very off topic. I'm not under the impression that I, as a human, am better than the other creatures sharing this planet. That is where my comments are coming from. If anyone cares to start a thread about that if they want to poke at my thoughts further, go ahead.
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I love having discussions about it and other controversial topics because it's fun, and helps me to better understand my own views by hearing others'.

I apologize once more, OP.
 
Anyone who doubts that feral cats are a serious predator should do a websearch on "Free Ranging Cats." There have been extensive studies carried out that document the serious impact of feral cat populations upon other species.

Gypsygirl's posts are right on the money.
 
Ferel cats are predators - and they kill for fun. If they would only kill and eat what they needed to survive, maybe I wouldn't have such a hard time accepting them in the environment, but they don't. If people wouldn't let their cat run loose outside, there wouldn't be cats roaming around killing things. They are not part of the natural environment nor a natural part of the ecosystem. People who feed ferel cats are under the mistaken impression that they only kill for food and that by feeding the cats, the cats are then not killing anything.

FOR EXAMPLE: At one time I lived on the end of a dead end road, about 1 mile from any neighbors. It was an old farmhouse that I rented, but it had a large pole shed and an old abandoned barn that was quickly rotting away to nothingness. It sat on 160 acres of abandonded farmland that had returned to meadows.

There were two cats that hung about that I would see regularly. One was a ferel black/white and the other was a orange tabby from the neighbors place (remember 1 mile away). Anytime that I went and walked along the driveway, about every other day in early summer, I would find a minimum of 7 or 8 songbirds that were obvious cat kills (mice also). And that was what I found on the two track dirt road which ran only from the farmhouse to about 100 feet past the barn. I could look into the barn at any point in the early summer and find a birds nest torn down, shredded and the eggs/babies ripped apart. I actually sat down one day and watched the orange tabby climb into the rafters and do this. This was a very pretty, very friendly, well fed barn cat that traveled a mile to get to my place to hunt. Was he hunting for food - NO - he was having fun, because killing is what cats do.
 
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My thoughts aren't negative.
On the contrary, , I'm absolutely POSITIVE eradication it the simplest way to handle feral animals

Bah, so yes, it is silly to say cats aren't predatory. They certainly are. I merely mean, bottom line, that we cannot simply eradicate these cats for whatever reason. The simplest way is not eradication. It can and should be an increase in the means of keeping them out, else keep watch...

I've just read too much of trapping and drowning them, and "eradicating" them. It's just not right. I can type all I can, sound stupid all day to anybody, but it's scary no one else would see what I mean.
 
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In an ideal world, maybe we all can afford to live in a thousand acres under wire mesh dome..... but in reality... I'd rather spent $10 on treats for my hens and about 20c in a bullet for any trespassing predator.....

The people I found worse than those letting their animals to roam free or becoming ferals are the pet owners who need to tip toe over the safety of those in their care.... if it's going to endanger your pets, get rid of it.
 
Sorry going to be off topic also ...........

I live in a built up area in the UK and there are a lot of cats in my neighborhood ........ I mean a lot of cats ......... and they all roam free. Until recently we didn't have chickens (or even pets) but we did/do have veggie and fruit patches. The neighbors cats would climb over our 6 foot fences just do do an early morning dump in our nice soft garden soil. Every morning I would have to get up and look all over the garden for these "surprise packages" because I didn't want our children to find the "hidden surprise toys" before we could. It cost us hundreds of pounds in lost soil, compost, plants and deterents. We finally had to put up a net around the top of our fence where the cats were coming in. It still isn't a 100% effective in keeping the cats out but instead of picking up three to five piles of steaming fresh poo every morning we have downgraded to two to six piles a year. In order to do this, we had to stay out in our garden all night and early morning a couple of days until we could pin point the exact times they were coming in. Then we had to put up some net. Check for poo. If we found any, we would stay up from 2 - 5 am "the cats hours" and find the new ways they were coming in and so on. I don't see how I should have to spend all the money, time and effort for cats that we don't own, don't benefit from and caused the death of several toads, hedgehogs and songbirds/nests that use to call our yard home. Now we have chicks and, although they will not be allowed to free roam in the garden unsupervised until they are much bigger, the owners of any cats that we find in our yard harassing or trying to kill our chicks will be notified that the next time their pet will be rehomed in the nearest pound.

I thought the OP was very classy in dealing with the highly charged situation.
 
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if this is happening you are not trapping long enough the last one is the key to the problem it IS not that hard to do you won,t believe the explosion in song birds after the "problem "is solved and a baby rabbit might just get to grow up
 

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