FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

[Audio51]

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Isn't there a concern about medicated vs non-medicated starter for waterfowl? I think I remember this from about 20 years ago when I kept chickens and ducks/geese

 

[Beekissed]

Isn't there a concern about medicated vs non-medicated starter for waterfowl? I think I remember this from about 20 years ago when I kept chickens and ducks/geese

I think there is...though I don't know why anyone would use medicated starter as FF. Kind of defeats the purpose of it all, both ways.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Waterfowl aren't supposed to have amprolium but I read on Metzer farms (waterfowl hatchery) website that the small amount in medicated will not hurt ducks.
http://metzerfarms.blogspot.com/2011/11/can-medicated-feed-be-used-for.html

 

[Audio51]

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I used it initially, but only because I already had it from before I started fermenting. I'm not buying any more of it though. I will be starting my first chicks on by the weekend hopefully. I just put the incubator on lockdown and Friday is Day 21.

 

[Audio51]

Waterfowl aren't supposed to have amprolium but I read on Metzer farms (waterfowl hatchery) website that the small amount in medicated will not hurt ducks.
http://metzerfarms.blogspot.com/2011/11/can-medicated-feed-be-used-for.html

Good to know! Maybe they have changed the amounts in the feed or just have done more studies since then. I remember it was a BIG no no back when I had them.

 

[LeslieDJoyce]

Waterfowl aren't supposed to have amprolium but I read on Metzer farms (waterfowl hatchery) website that the small amount in medicated will not hurt ducks.
http://metzerfarms.blogspot.com/2011/11/can-medicated-feed-be-used-for.html

This is just what I was going to say.

 

[pdirt]

Thank you for explaining and showing pics. Wish I could sticky this post and links/pics for these FF threads as this seems to be one of the most FAQs. And, yep....my "mold" is yeast, according to those pics!

Glad it helped! Here's a direct link to the post, you could at least bookmark it for future reference:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/645057/fermented-feeds-anyone-using-them/2310#post_12893023

 

[ChickenCanoe]

It's always been a no no but probably from people feeding medicated and then also putting amprolium in water. That's even a no no for chickens.

 

[chickengirl1193]

So if I feed un medicated starter it should be fine. Thanks!

 

[Tikkijane]

You're giving me faith with this response to the mold thing. Mine was quite fuzzy this morning.

As to the vet thing. We never even used a vet for cats, dogs or horses when I was growing up, much less poultry, hogs or cattle.
They made it or they didn't. That said, after finding a rare breed I searched long and hard for, I took an egg bound pullet to a vet when she had a relapse after I successfully got her to release one.
The vet was virtually worthless and a waste of time and money.
Unlike many areas, we actually have at least 4 good avian vets and 2 with poultry experience. That's quite rare.

I understand there are a lot of pet chicken people here, and they do make good urban backyard pets.
I have had a lot of chickens I've been very fond of.  On the other hand, I've always considered them livestock and if they didn't make me breakfast AND dinner, as well as provide fertilizer, I wouldn't own one.

Next time take a picture and post it? I have never had a layer of mold- just a wee little on the sides from time to time if the kids forget to scrape them.